Prussia - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: SAGAN, TURON, KOSHI, HETCKO, OLSHER

stinkerpants1 — 2010-03-20 21:13:49Z

I am just starting my family tree, but I am an Olsher. I have traced our family to Poland in the late 1800s. Our last known family member was Samuel Olsher, who emmigrated to the US in the early 1900s.

Re: Ancestor

claratmyft — 2010-03-20 02:48:57Z

I have a great grandfather who was Johann Augutus Stark born on Doebel Prussia in 1857 and emmigrated to the US in 1872 his father was Fredric Stark and mother Dorthea maybe this helps but I have research Doebel and it was a tiny town.

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

elizabethskrochnorton — 2010-03-19 15:09:12Z

Thanks, Ruth for offering to be so helpful. I am interested in the Gospsodar line of the Skroch family. My nephew andKI are concentrating on the Skroch history now--my great grandfather was Mathias Skroch who married Anna Neva. I am not very organized at present, but working on it. Thank you again and let's keep in touch. Betty Brooks

Re: SCHULTZ from POMMERN

mmjt186 — 2010-03-19 09:19:26Z

Hi,
My great grandmother was Berta Schultz born 1889 in Elowka, East Prussia. She married a Mr Popovitz about 1915, they had 2 children (one is my grandmother). After he died she married a Nicholaus Schurtakow in 1920 East Prussia and they had 5 more children. I am after information about where she was born and her parents and siblings. The story is that a brother of her, went to America about 1920 or so.
Berta Schurtakow died in 1961 Plotzky Germany. Can you help me with any further information.

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-19 04:56:52Z

I finally got a chance to look at your site the other day. Fantastic !!! Thanks for inviting me.

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-19 04:54:59Z

Hi. I have some obits if you will email me at ruthcoffman@yahoo.com I will email them to you this weekend.

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-19 04:52:28Z

a relative is sending me some things in the mail soon. I dont know what it is just yet. Is there anything I can do to help you? I'm afraid I have a very short memory and have to be reminded often.

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

elizabethskrochnorton — 2010-03-18 20:48:55Z

Ruth, have you found any of the info about the Nogosek's you are looking for?

Re: Foede, Kuentopf, Gospodar, Lanski

elizabethskrochnorton — 2010-03-18 20:33:36Z

Betty, Tthere are gospodar's in my family history on the Skroch side. I was born in Jamestown, ND and live about 150 miles from there now and frequently go to Jamestown--My lineage is Mathias Skroch,Simon Skroch and Elizabeth Klink. Betty Brooks belizsch@aol.com

Re: Joseph Ferrin / Therese Marx -- Prussia/Tucson AZ

trakus — 2010-03-17 03:22:44Z

Just typed my name into google for the heck of it...Therese Marx. I was surprised to see some one with my spelling...
I pronounce it, ter'rez.

Re: Wroblewski, Gorna

djguza — 2010-03-16 19:01:31Z

Mary; I read with interest your post. I am related to the Stanley Guza who married Mariana Nadzieja. His father John arrived in the U.s. 1871-1872 and lived first in MI and then later in Chicago, Please write if there is any info I can supply
Dennis Guza

Re: RAUSCH, REIMANN

ThomasReiman — 2010-03-16 18:24:54Z

I am looking for a Herman Wilhelm Reimann, born May 6, 1877 in Langenbielau, Poland and immigrated to Illinois with his parents in 1883 (per an Obit) and later moved to Martin County, Minnesota. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Re: Silesia records

halpark — 2010-03-15 23:26:48Z

Post on the Silesia (Schlesien) board.

Re: Prussia place name

halpark — 2010-03-15 23:22:32Z

Don't worry too much, just remember it is difficult enough with poor transcribing (most of the census returns and BMD registers were, I understand, transcribed in India!) but it is really important to put all the details correct as far as you have them, for people to help. I have looked at the 1871 census and it is quite clear that the town begins with E and ends with burg - so I feel pretty sure it is Eilenburg. Yes it is in Saxony today, but due to the complications of 19th century European history it was ceded to the King of Prussia in 1815, along with Torgau and Preussisch Delitsch and became one of the leading textile manufacturing towns in Prussia. They probably have a web site so it might be worth seeing if they have any sort of contact address and writing to ask if they have any record. However, there is one caveat. Eilenburg was one of the unfortunate towns which was declared as a "fortress" by the Nazis at the end of WW2 and refused to surrender to the Americans. Consequently having escaped much damage during the actual war years they were almost blown out of existence in the last few days which may mean many records were lost. Best of luck anyway, hope this helps.

Czachorowsky's of pre-1845 Prussia

aef180 — 2010-03-15 02:12:16Z

Searching for parents, siblings, cousins etc. of L. F. Czachorowsky. Male. Born 1n 1843 in Nurnburg. Immigrated to Chicago, IL in 1860, apparently alone. Married Anna Marie "Mary" Junk or Younk of St. Wendel, Prussia.

Re: Schmidt family

juneogara — 2010-03-14 22:02:25Z

i am related to elizabeth and august schmitt. she is my grandmother. my mother is anna schmitt cunningham.

june

Re: Prussia place name

hjfinlay — 2010-03-14 20:48:33Z

My apologies, I am new at this. Louisa Schmidt married a Johannis Groll in 1850 at Holy Trinity Parish, Kingston-on Hull. I cannot find any info on her until the England 1861 census where she is listed as widow Louisa Gull living with her children, Caroline, Jacob, Peter and John and a boarder, James Hewitt. On the 1871 census she has now married James Hewitt and is listed as Jane Hewitt, living in Gainsbourgh along with her children Peter 14 and John 11 from her previous marriage, listed with the surname Hewitt, as well as 3 daughters she had with James; Jane 7, Elizabeth 4 and Ann aged 5mths. It is on this census that she lists Preußen,Elanbury as place of both. This is what started my such on where she came from in Prussia

Karl Wilhelm Saleski

PAULSALESKI — 2010-03-14 18:01:35Z

I am looking for information on Karl Wilhelm Saleski. He was born in Schlochau, West Prussia during the year 1824. His brother was Andreas Salewski born in 1830. Karl came to the US while Andreas settled into East Prussia. I am looking for the parents and siblings.

Re: Prussia place name

halpark — 2010-03-14 15:27:02Z

Could I politely suggest that if you want help you should try to be really accurate with your details. Nothing returns on the 1861 or 1871 census under Louisa Schmidt but there is a Caroline L. Schmidt aged 32 on the 1861 in Brighton, aged 39 on 1871 in Tupsley, Herefordshire - both born in Germany and the place is quite clearly Lauenburg which is in Schleswig-Holstein. There is a Louisa aged 45 on the 1881 working as a housemaid in Soho. Incidentally there is no "Preuben". What looks like a "b" is the German "sharp s" - Preussen. I don't know where you got your other details but hope this helps.

Silesia records

melszoo — 2010-03-13 20:03:40Z

I am not sure if this is the right place to post (so feel free to correct me if it isn't) but I am looking for information on Silesia or Schlesien.
I have a death record for an ancestor of mine which states that he was born in Gerbergdorf, Schlesien ... it doesn't have the birth year listed on it but it can be estimated as ~1825 since the year of death was 1883 and the age listed at death was 58yrs.
Can anyone give me any information on this location and possible any leads on where to pursue this further?

Thank-you.

Re: Prussia place name

hjfinlay — 2010-03-13 15:19:08Z

Sorry - it's England Census. On the 1861 census it states Germany as place of birth; the 1871 states Preuben Elanbury and on the 1881 census it states (Nbs) Preuben. I believe the NBS indicates that she now is a naturalized British subject.

Re: Prussia place name

halpark — 2010-03-12 00:16:28Z

Thought I might look on the census to look at original handwriting as there is so much mis-transcribing, but you say "British" census - no such thing. England? Wales? Scotland?, Channel Islands?

Re: Kaufhold

mmdoherty — 2010-03-11 14:35:05Z

I'm sorry, David. I thought I had it set up to tell me when people respond to my posts, so I didn't see this. No, I have no other information. Dorethea's husband Christoph Apel was listed as a "chimney sweep" on the ship's manifest, and he seems to have traveled with a brother named Melchior. I don't know if Dorethea/Dora and Christoph met on the ship or knew each other/were engaged before they boarded.

Maureen

Re: Prussia place name

otti69fant — 2010-03-11 09:42:00Z

Maybe the place name should be Eilenburg, a city near Leipzig. But this is not Prussia (Preußen), but Saxonia (Sachsen).

Re: Mary Nogosek

bet54656 — 2010-03-11 01:31:13Z

I wanna go too.

Betty
P.S. I put out a search on Valentine and his wife.

Re: Mary Nogosek

dawnkwillson1 — 2010-03-10 21:28:05Z

Yea, I have heard of it. I think we have explored it already. I think my only chance of getting back further will be traveling to Poland. I have been able to get to 1781. So, Poland, here I come!

Re: Mary Nogosek

bet54656 — 2010-03-10 19:29:35Z

Dawn,

Can you travel to the library at Independence? If so, there is a book written by a family that traveled to Poland. I can't remember the name. I also bought vol 1 of "A Small Town Goes to War"...biographies of vets during WWII. I have a 100 year celebration book of St. Peter & Paul church, Independence, Wi. 1875 - 1975. I have these with me in Arizona. Have you tried the website Genforum.com? Go to Countries and then to Germany/Prussia
and put out a search. If I can do any searching when I get back in Wisconsin please let me know.

Paul Wald from Prussia died in St. Louis

bkkopshina — 2010-03-09 00:49:56Z

Hi, I'm looking for more information on Paul Wald who was born in Prussia on 20 May 1840. I'm looking for parents or siblings or an exact birth place. After coming to America, he served as a clergyman at two churches in both Jefferson and Clearfield counties in the mid 1860s in Pennsylvania. He married Barbara Walker,(abt 1866) the daughter of Christian and Catharine (Ulrich) Walker from Germany.

In 1870, Paul and Barbara are living in Muskingum, Washington, Ohio. They have a son William (born abt. 1866) and a son Emile (b. abt 1869). In 1880, Paul was widowed and was living with Emile (age 12) and Rosa (age 9, b. abt 1871 in Ohio) in St. Louis (District 12), Missouri. So far, I haven't been able to find a death date or location for Barbara. I believe that Paul died on 10 May 1886 in St. Louis, MO and is buried at Gatewood Gardens Cemetery, Saint Louis, Missouri. I've found their son's death information (Emile). He was born 22 Oct 1868 in Madison, Wisconsin and died 15 Dec 1946 in Ellsville, St. Louis, Missouri. He was married to Cad Unknown and had a daughter Lucille who was born around 1899. He is buried in Bellefontaine Cemetery. If anyone can help me find information on this family, I would be very grateful! Thanks! Barb

Prussia place name

hjfinlay — 2010-03-08 18:37:07Z

I am searching for info on the place where my gg-grandmother, Louisa Schmidt was born in 1826 [father's name is Balthasar Schmidt]. 1871 British census states place of birth as Preußen, Elanbury. I have not been able to find this place on any old maps; it may be an error in transcribing, possibly Elenburg?. Any suggestions?

Re: Mary Nogosek

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-07 23:48:51Z

The only Neva family I have in my file is a George J. Neva who married Gertrude Nogosek 28 Oct 1939. Gertrude was the daughter of Peter Nogosek and Magdalen Fischer.

Re: Mary Nogosek

dawnkwillson1 — 2010-03-07 18:02:53Z

I do have Simon Skroch and Elizabeth Klink in my family line. However, Simon's son Mattias and his wife Anna Neva is where I come in. I have Simon Skroch's parents as Valentine Skroch B: 1781 D; JAN 17, 1826 in Hirschfelde, Opole, Polan and his wife, who he married in 1804 is Marie Janek. I have no more information on her. my information stops after Valentine and Marie.

Simon Skroch's son is Mattias Skroch B; 1834 born in popielow, upper silesia, married to Anna Neva. Mattias had a son Peter Skroch B; 1860 born in popielow D: 1937 in Independence married to Anna Blaha. THey had a daughter Marie (Mary) Skroch b; 1885 who was married to Urban Skroch they are my great grandparents. Urban was born in 1878. Urban and Mary had 10 kids, one was my grandmother Angeline Skroch. Angeline was born in 1921. She married Ralph Sygulla in 1941 in Independence.

Mary Nogosek is the mother of Anna Blaha (married to Peter Skroch. I want to be able to go farther back through the both Lawrence Blaha and Mary Nogosek, the parents of Anna Blaha. Lawrence Blaha was born 1826 and they were married Jan 26 1858.

Pellman/Poehlman/Pohlman/Pehlman (etc.) from Prussia

sensei2001 — 2010-03-07 10:45:36Z

My great-great-grandfather was William Henry Pellman (on his headstone in the USA), but was born in Luetetsburg, Preussen on 29 September 1827. His birthname was probably Wilhelm Heinrich Poehlman (with an o-umlaut instead of "oe") or something similar that was transcribed as "Pellman" once he reached America in 1857.

I am looking for any information about his birth, birthplace, parents, or other relatives.

Volga Germans

Elananor — 2010-03-07 07:26:58Z

Conrad Kammerzell in Frank, Prussia
And
Fleigel family in Bessarabia (Prussia?)

Info please! Thank you!

Re: Mary Nogosek

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-07 05:25:44Z

In cemetery book for Barnes Co., ND are the following Skroch
Skroch, Jessie (mother) 1873-1930
Skroch, John (father) 1864-1933

Re: Mary Nogosek

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-07 05:19:00Z

Dawn, I have some ND cemetery books with Skroch in them. They are related to my Nogosek family. They are as follows:
Cemeteries of Stutsman Co., ND.
Skroch, son of J. & T. 23 Nov 1892-6 Jan 1893
Skroch, son of J.T. 20 Oct 1891-1 Jan 1892
Skroch, Peter W. 2 June 1889-20 Feb 1938
Skroch, Elizabeth 24 Sept 1888-9 oct 1926
Skroch, Martha M. 1905-
(below that is ) Joseph W. 1906-1944
Skroch, Frank N. 1895-1954
(belwo that is Gerald F. 1919-1959
If any of these sound familiar to you , I can try to find the obits here in library.

Re: Mary Nogosek

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-07 05:10:45Z

Betty, did I ever send you the infor I had on Gospodar/Gospodor from cemetery books and obits?

Re: Mary Nogosek

RuthCoffman10 — 2010-03-07 04:44:10Z

Do you have a Simon Skrock or a Christina Skroch who married a George Nogosek in your family line. The Christina Skrock lineage (descendants) is what I have. Her father was Simon Skrock and mother was Elizabeth Klink. I am afraid I do not go back any farther in the Skrock line.

Re: Mary Nogosek

dawnkwillson1 — 2010-03-07 00:21:39Z

Okay, Thanks Betty,
I live in California, but I am in Wisconsin for the next month or so, so I am trying to look into it while I'm here.

dawn

Re: Mary Nogosek

bet54656 — 2010-03-06 23:40:54Z

Hi Dawn,

I would be happy to help you but, I am doing the Gospodar/Pavelski tree not the Nogosek. Ruth Coffman from N. Dakota has the info and I send some info when I get it. Most of my info is back in Wisconsin and I'll be back there in May.

Betty

Mary Nogosek

dawnkwillson1 — 2010-03-06 21:22:22Z

My Name is Dawn Willson (Maiden name Sygulla). I am looking for information on Mary Nogosek. I'm pretty sure she is from Upper Silesia, but I do not know for sure. She was my great, great, great grandmother. She was married to Lawrence Blaha (Dob: 1826) on Jan 26 1858 in Popielow. Their daughter Anna Blaha (dob: 1867) married Peter Skroch and moved to Independence, WI from Popielow, Upper silesia, Poland. Anna's daughter Marie (Mary) Skroch married Urban Skroch in 1904 in WI. They had ten children, one of which is my grandmother Angeline Sygulla born in 1921 (maiden name Skroch - she married Ralph Sygulla.) Angeline had 4 children, the youngest Beverly Sygulla is my mother. I am the oldest child of Beverly. I was born in 1971.

Ratai -

djrtjsk — 2010-03-05 15:24:37Z

Looking for family/relatives of Georg and Rosalia nee Czeglina Ratai. Both born about 1740. In Gross Wartenberg (German name)today is Sycow (Poland name). And Mangschütz (German name) Makoszyce (Poland name)area.

Their son Lorenz Ratay born 23 July 1769 in Mostki. Married 27 Feb. 1797 to Maria nee Maslowska in Makoszyce. Son Michael born Marcinki 15 Sept 1802. Roman Catholic church for Sycow where 5 children of Michael and Maria (nee Pietzonka) were baptised. Wedding here 10 May 1829 for parents.

Re: Prussia Location Help Please

rotosis — 2010-03-05 03:37:12Z

Hi Nicole

I just recently found that my husbands family is connected to the same couple you are looking for. One of their daughters (presuming that in the 7 you say they had...none of which i have found......more than one daughter) Anyway, her name was Mary Alford, it is assumed that she was born in 1875, though as you know the ship didn't get to New Zealand until the 4th Aug 1876. Apparently the families were all from KOKOSZKI in Poland, again as you know some was part of Prussa etc. If you can obatin a copy of Polish Settlers in Taranaki 1876 - 1976 it gives the stories, though the Alfuth (Alford family are barely mentioned, i borrowed mine from the Library.

Do you know the names of the rest of the children, it would be lovely to have. Also i have another relative who has a photo of Mary Alford (the daughter) who married into my husbands family William Ridley in 1899.

Hope i helped, i know it is a long time since you started your search, take care.

Claire

Re: EGER

THLPERT — 2010-03-04 23:53:44Z

Don't know if this helps

Adolph Eger b1833 Wurtenburg, Germany
married Magdalena Sharp b 1841 PA.
They lived in Collier Twp/ Carnegie PA

Their children were:

Mary b 1860
William Eger P. b 1861
Emma K. b 1862
Stephen J. Eger b Jan 1867
Anthony W. Eger b Dec 1867
Anna M. b 1870
Frederick A. Eger b 1872

Re: ancestors

KVosDeSuler — 2010-03-04 10:05:05Z

I have a Paul Neisinger married to an Emma but the ages are, Paul is 39 and Emma is 32 in 1920. but I do have every name listed that you have. I have an elder Paul Neisinger listed as age 75.

Re: ancestors

KVosDeSuler — 2010-03-04 09:58:02Z

I'm responding to a post written in 2002 but hope you still get this message. It sent chills through me to read it. I have recently began researching the Neisinger side of my family tree. I am the great grandaughter of Frank Neisinger, b.1912 in MN (along with 6 siblings). I'm looking at a 1920 cenus from the town of Monroe, WA (in which a lot of us still live) It looks like Frank is the son of Paul, born in WI, who is the son of Paul. It states that he was born in Germany but now you've got me wondering if it was Prussia. It also says that he came to the U.S. in 1865 and that he was widowed. Does any of this ring a bell?

Re: BARTKOWICK, BARTOWICK, correction

@@ron_bronemann@hotmail.com — 2010-03-03 18:45:45Z

Sophia Lau should be Sophia Lann.
Joe Bartkowick, b. abt. 1880, d. 1949/50 Brownsvile, PA, arrived 1902 in NY.

Searching for relatives

slavjanin — 2010-03-03 01:09:34Z

I come from a family Talacko of Jestetic, and I am responsible for this family after my great-grandmother Barbara Talacko, born in 1852 in Pabenice, district Caslav. After the line I got to Talacko who lived in Chrudim region. In addition, the second part of this family lived in East Prussia. Regarding the information about the past of our family, most of the information I got.

As for my relatives, so actually I have no one else except the parents. I would most like to know if you are in the world, people who belong to the genus Talacko of Jestetic. And I would very much like to find out that I have some relatives in the world and very glad I made contact with them.

If interested, very glad I offer specific information.

Re: Looking for ancestors

jessica20221 — 2010-02-28 14:55:19Z

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STRUNCK / OBLADEN Family from Pesch

TomProst — 2010-02-26 12:03:57Z

My 3rd Great Grandparents Maria Anna STRUNCK & Mathias Sylvester OBLADEN lived and raised four children in the village of Pesch (in the Eifel region), Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany before they emigrated from Prussia to Wisconsin, USA in 1844. Their first child was born/baptized in Pesch on 31 August 1824. There is no marriage record in the Pesch church records. I do not know who Maria Anna STRUNCK's parents are. Based upon her death record, her YoB is about 1790. If you have information that would help me learn more about this STRUNCK family, I would appreciate it. Thank you. p r o s t @ p j s n e t . c o m

Thies/Theis Lennep, Rheinland, Preussen

JDoering146 — 2010-02-26 05:26:09Z

So I'm just looking for either some suggestions or ideas. Looking for August Thies (Wilhemina Zuchow) who came from Prussia in ~ 1873 to the US and made their way to Cleveland, OH. I have no idea where they landed as I have not found immigration/naturalization records. The ONLY connection I have found thus far to Germany is in a christening record from March 9, 1845 in Evangelisch, Lennep, Rheinland, Preussen. Parents names listed as Johann Heinrich Theis and Helena Schopphoff. I guess I'm just looking for something else, to point towards different resources. I am not even sure the Christening record is his, it just happened to pop up and it's around roughly the correct time... but I'm not sure it's even his so maybe someone can shed some light as to if it is or is not. I appreciate anything you can offer :o) Thank you so much!

Jen