Hi There! So sorry that I never saw this entry from you until now. Yes, we are talking about the same people. Thelma and Phil were my grandparents. Of course, I never got to meet my grandfather since he was killed before I was born. If you still have the photo of Phil and the bus depot, I would LOVE to see it. I have started a family tree on-line under the public family Rank Family Tree. Please email me at janetventola@aim.com whenever you get this message. I would love to chat with one of my cousins. I am so happy to see that someone else is interested in our family history. Maybe with your help, I could get somewhere in my quest to fill in my tree. Janet