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Re: Martha Brown

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-03-20 02:22:47Z

Hi Leigh
According to the Baptismal Registers of St. Andrew's United Church, Martha Elizabeth Brown was baptised Nov. 27 1861 in Orangeville - born Oct. 12 1861 in Amaranth Township to James Brown and Margaret Curry who married Dec. 25 1860 in Orangeville.

James Brown was born c1834 in Ireland (1851 census) and died July 20 1913 in Grand Forks, North Dakota, where he is buried (info from another researcher, Kate Johnson). He was the son of Robert Brown and Maria Pickering.

Margaret Curry was the daughter of John Curry and Martha Bowman. Margaret was born c1833 and died June 8 1895 in Mono Township, Dufferin County. She is buried in Greenwood Cemetery in Orangeville.

Orangeville Sun - June 13, 1895

Relessey News - Mr. Wm. Brown was summoned home from Grand Forks, Dakota, owing to his mother's illness. He arrived just one week before her death."

MRS. BROWN DEAD - After many months of illness, Margaret, wife of Mr. Jas. Brown of lot 15, con. 5, Mono, passed away on Saturday at 2 o'clock. For the last year or more she has suffered greatly from dropsy, most of the time not being able to lie down to rest. Deceased was 62 years of age. Seven children survive her, two sons and five daughters. Mrs. Barry resides in Athlone, Adjala, Mrs. A. Lammie, Mrs. Power, Miss Anne, Messrs. Wesley and Wm. in Grand Forks, Dakota, and Miss Carrie, at home. The pall-bearers were: Messrs. John Bower, Irwin Anderson, V. Dynes, Wm. Moffatt, Jno. Hutchison and Wm. Neil. The funeral, which took place on Monday to Greenwood cemetery, Orangeville, was largely attended. To the sorrow-stricken husband and family we extend our sympathy.
"There is no death in this wide world,
But one eternal scene of change;
The flag of life is never furled,
It only taketh wings."

I have an old email address for Kate Johnson, who would probably be glad to hear from you. You can contact me directly at sheiladavidson@sympatico.ca

Re: Martha Brown

leigh_kelly — 2010-03-18 12:56:13Z

Thanks for your help, all I know about Martha is she died August 14, 1950 and I think she was born around Orangeville between 1862-1867. I'm having trouble finding her parents.

Leigh

Re: Martha Brown

satch42179 — 2010-03-18 03:04:11Z

18175-24 (Simcoe Co) Joseph KELLY, 26, farmer, Adjala, same, s/o John KELLY & Elizabeth MORROW, married Mary Margaret BARRY, 20, Adjala, same, d/o Michael BARRY & Elizabeth BROWN, witn: Francis KELLY of Adjala & Alice KEOGH of Tottenham, 26 Feb 1924 at St James Church Colgan RC

I don't see a marriage registration for Michael Barry and Martha/Elizabeth Brown.
In fact after 1901 census and the above marriage, I don't see them at all on Ancestry.ca

Re: hornett family tree

ELLinSpain — 2010-03-18 01:01:35Z

you hav'nt posted any dob's so

1911
Name: George May Harriett
[George May Hornett]
[George Percy Hornett]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 27
Birth Date: Dec 1886
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Dufferin
District Number: 62
Sub-District: Shelburne
Sub-District Number: 24
+
Name: Isabella Elizabeth Harriett
[Isabella Elizabeth Hornett]
[Isabella Charlotte Hornett]
[Isabella Charlotte Harriett]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 21
Birth Date: May 1889
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Dufferin
District Number: 62
Sub-District: Shelburne
Sub-District Number: 24
+
Winnifred Hornett]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 3
Birth Date: Feb 1908
Birthplace: California
[Canada]
+
Eveline Hornett]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 11/12
Birth Date: Dec 1910
Birthplace: California
[Canada]
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Martha Brown

leigh_kelly — 2010-03-17 16:20:40Z

looking for any infomation on Martha Brown how married Michael Barry around 1895. They had three children Michael, Bernard and my great grandmother Mary (AKA Greta) who married Joseph Kelly.

Leigh

Re: hornett family tree

nicoelh1 — 2010-03-16 06:53:23Z

Wow, how very close the names are -- or maybe because they're common first names? That's my dad's name too, but he was born in Victoria in 1950.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 23:37:40Z

Yes, I am working on the Slack/Silk line, so if you are familiar with the families it may be easier for you to just send me all you have. I just learned today of a Slack who died in WWII; Kenneth Earl Clifford Slack died on May 9, 1945 serving with the Royal Canadian Air Force in England. He is the son of William and Lottie (Whiteside) Slack who were in Toronto at the time but I believe grew up in Dufferin county.

I saw in the obit for Pat Silk that two of his boys were in the service during WWII and I looked briefly for them in the military records but I don't think either died in the service.

I know of one other veteran in the family with Dufferin connections that died in WWI: William Albert McClinchey. William was the son of Margaret(Watson) McClinchey who was the daughter of Margaret (Slack) Watson. He died April 2, 1918 and is buried in the Wailly Orchard Cemetery in France. His mother and a sister died in the Great Fire of 1916 around Matheson, so I think he was living up there when he enlisted. I have it that his brother James McClinchey died while in military training for WWI, but I have been unable to confirm this.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 21:46:22Z

We are covering all people who have a Dufferin county connection in any conflict. So we have worked on WWII, I have a couple of obits from Silks that were in WWII and a couple of names with no information.

Are you interested in the Silk / Slack lines? I did notice the people we have talked about so far have been connected through the Slacks. There is at least one more Silk in WWI but he is not part of one of the Silk / Slack lines.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 21:15:49Z

Excellent - I really appreciate you providing this information. I think I have all the WWI vets in the family covered and now am working on WWII. Are you doing anything for WWII?

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 21:01:52Z

Sure can....

Shelburne Free Press, August 29, 1918 - PTE. ARTHUR R. SIMMONS: Official information was received by his parents in Dundalk on Saturday last, August 24th, announcing the death of Pte. Arthur R. Simmons, who was killed in action on August 14th. "Art" was a young man of 24 years, and prior to enlisting in the 164th Halton-Dufferin Battalion in the early months of 1916, was teller in the Union Bank at Shelburne. He went overseas in April, 1917, with the band of that battalion. When the band was broken up he was transferred to the 116th Canadian Infantry battalion in France, where he had been engaged up to the time of his death. Pte. Simmons was a valued member of the bank staff and the citizen's band and his death is being regretted by all who knew him here. His parents, Mr. and Mrs. S. Simmons, have the sympathy of this community in the loss of their only child and son. The late Pte. Simmons was a grandson of Mrs. Henry Silk and a nephew of Messrs Robt. and William Silk of Shelburne. He was born here and as a mark of respect the flag on the town hall was raised to half-mast for a couple of days.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 19:32:31Z

Thank you, thank you, thank you - I feel now as if I know Pat.

Would you be willing to see if you have an obit for a cousin of Pat's: Arthur Reginald Simmons, b. 1893, died 14 Aug 1918 in Vimy, France, body never found.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 18:22:51Z

Shelburne Free Press & Economist - August 6, 1942 - A. V. ("PAT") SILK BURIED WEDNESDAY: Interment took place in Shelburne Cemetery on Wednesday afternoon of a widely known First Great War veteran, Alfred ("Pat") Victor Silk, who died in Lord Dufferin Hospital Sunday night in his 46th year, following an extended illness. Service at the Gamble Funeral Home was conducted by Rev. Albert Mills, under auspices of Shelburne branch No. 220 of the Canadian Legion. A son of Mrs. and the late William Silk, "Pat" was born in Shelburne and enlisted with the 154th Battalion in the First Great War. Later he transferred to the Royal Canadian Engineers, with whom he served until demobilization in 1919. Back in Canada he went into business in Woodstock for a short time before setting up in the harness and leather trade here. Ten years later he entered the contracting business and remained until taking ill over a year ago. A member of the local branch of the Canadian Legion, he was a widely known curler and for a time was active in amateur lacrosse and hockey circles. Prior to the Rotary Club taking over the local rinks, Mr. Silk was manager of the skating rink. He was also a former side-drummer in Shelburne Citizens' Band. Surviving are the Widow, the former Rilla Harrison, and three sons, Arthur, Alvin and Reggie, the latter overseas. Reggie is also on active service and Arthur was recently given an honorable discharge after several months' service in Canada. Brothers and sisters surviving are: Mrs. E. C. Mandley, Shelburne; Mrs. H. B. Church, Orangeville; Ed., Shelburne; Clarence, Pickering, and Bert, Toronto. Pallbearers at the service Wednesday were all former buddies of the 164th Battalion: Messrs. Geo. Yokom, Russell Rennicks, Cecil Reid, William Hall, William Farnell and Stanley Lomas.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 17:29:31Z

Thank you very much for all your help. I am really enjoying watching my family history grow before my eyes!

If I could impose on you again, would you please see if you have an obituary for Alfred Victor Silk. He was born 22 Apr 1897 in the Shelburne area and apparently also served in WWI according to the Dufferin Roll.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 16:29:04Z

No idea why he might be in the US military. It might be because it was easier to lie about his age in a different county? No hint in his obit.

Shelburne Free Press & Economist, Wednesday, March 24, 1965 - Page 10 - DEATHS: SILK - at Sunnybrook Hospital, Toronto, Saturday, March 13, 1965, Carmen E. Silk, Husband of Ethel Silk, and father of Caral and Richard, youngest son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Richard Silk, Shelburne, and brother of Mrs. Lillian Trotter, Lodon, Ontario, and Mrs. Violet Parsons, Shelburne. Predeceased by brother Melville and sister Rita (Mrs. Rennick). Funeral from the Ingram Funeral Home, Toronto, Wednesday, March 17th. Final resting place Veteran's Plot, Pine Hill Cemetery, Toronto.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 16:05:54Z

Great, I look forward to you putting it on the internet. I am curious now about Carman Silk, the brother of Melville. Do you have any idea why he would be serving in the US military in 1920? I don't find his attestation papers in the Canadian Archives site, but since he was born in 1902 he may have been too young. I do find him listed on the Dufferin County Roll of Service here:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onduffer/ww1rolls.html

So, I am wondering if he saw service in WWI? Do you have any information on him? I know he was back in Ontario in 1924 when he got married.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 15:40:14Z

Janet has a great website at: http://dufferin.ontarioobits.com/

We are in the process of creating a virtual war memorial (not yet on the internet, internal to the Dufferin museum only for now). So I do have a few articles and pictures of two of the three veterans that you have mentioned in your earlier posts.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-15 14:10:40Z

Thank you very much for the obit. This answers my questions about his demise.

I am curious where you got his obit. Is there an online source for the obits in the Shelburne area?

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

ropetc502 — 2010-03-15 13:20:38Z

Here is his obit:

Shelburne Free Press, October 28, 1920 - DEATH OF WAR VETERAN: In the death early on Wednesday morning of this week of Melville J. H. Silk, elder son of Mrs. R. C. Silk, Main street east, another name is added to the list of local casualties directly attributable to the great war. "Mel," as he was familiarly known, joined up with the 164th Battalion in Shelburne in the early days of its organization and went overseas with that battalion in April, 1917. After some months spent in training in England he went to France where he was severely gassed and contacted pleurisy and was returned to England for treatment, returning to Canada on Dec. 10th, 1918. Upon his arrival here he took treatment for several weeks in Spadina Military Hospital, Toronto, later being transferred to the Military Hospital at Guelph. His condition showed no signs of improvement and he was permitted to return to his home here in June last, where he has awaited the inevitable call. The deceased, who was in his 27th year, was highly respected by his comrades and associates and his passing is regretted by the whole community. He was an honorary member of L.O.L. No. 1321, Shelburne, and a member of the local branch of the G.W.V.A. Besides his widowed mother he is survived by three sisters, Mrs. Bert Trotter, Peterborough; Mrs. A. W. Parsons, Violet Hill, and Miss Reta Silk, at home, and one brother, Carmen Silk, with the Tank Corps of the United States Regulars at Camp Mead, Md. Funeral arrangements were not completed when we went to press.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-03-15 05:54:23Z

The death record for Melville J. H. Silk - Oct. 27 1920 in Shelburne, Dufferin County - gives his occupation as 'returned soldier' and cause of death as 'pulmonary tubercolosis'. Perhaps he contracted the illness while overseas.
If you would like to see a copy of the death registration, please contact me directly at sheiladavidson@sympatico.ca to provide your email address.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-14 23:45:42Z

Thanks, that is interesting. I have a death date of 1920 for Melville, but maybe he died from wounds he suffered in the war. That was what I was wondering about, so I appreciate your help.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-03-14 19:55:04Z

There are no McClincheys listed, but on the south face under "Our Honoured Dead 1914 -1918" - Melville Silk and A. R. Simmons. are included.

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-14 01:39:34Z

I am looking for Silk, Simmons and McClinchey. I know Arthur Simmons and Albert McClinchey died in France in WWI.

I can get some of the names on the Cenotaph by searching here:

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php

but for some reason when I try to go to page two of the list for the Cenotaph it reverts to Shelburme cemetery listings.

Thanks

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-03-14 01:17:54Z

Yes, the book does list the names, but too many to list them all. Who are you looking for ?

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-13 16:41:13Z

Thanks for the information. Does the book by Lois Black list the names that are on the cenotaph?

Re: Shelburne Cenotaph

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-03-13 04:51:49Z

According to "Gravestone Inscriptions of Melancthon Township, Dufferin County, Ontario" by Lois Black ... the west side of the Centotaph reads ...
"Canada - Erected by the people of Shelburne and vicinity to perpetuate the memory of our honoured dead and those who carried on in the great wars" ...

Shelburne Cenotaph

northwestpioneer — 2010-03-11 00:43:29Z

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the cenotaph in Shelburne? Is it to honor veterans? Thanks

Re: Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

Forloveofthefuture — 2010-03-10 14:36:37Z

These pictures are absolutely wonderful-thank you for sharing. I am going to have some of my "old" Aunts and Uncles look at them and see if they know any of them.

Re: Picture of Katie & Ethel Woodland, Orangeville, Ont.

mlsgs — 2010-03-08 01:36:18Z

Please contact me through the message center on this site so I can get your address. mls

Re: Fred Brown

wagoncab — 2010-03-08 00:27:40Z

Fred and his wife Mary had 3 children that we know of before 1896. Isabel born sept 17 1892, Nellie, not sure of her birth date but died august 1896 and William my grandfather, born Dec 27 1895. The children were born in Canada or Michigan. Fred and Mary were very young in 1896.
18-19 or 19-20. They dissapeared from Niles Michigan after 1896 and were never seen or heard from again. May have had more children together or remarried and had more children we just don't know.
Thanks
Cindy

Re: Fred Brown

ELLinSpain — 2010-03-07 22:55:08Z

do you have any children's details?

Re: Fred Brown

ELLinSpain — 2010-03-07 22:54:38Z

do you have death certs or SS copies?

Re: Fred Brown

wagoncab — 2010-03-07 22:47:56Z

No, We don't know the names of his parents.I wish we did, it might narrow things down a bit.

Re: Fred Brown

ELLinSpain — 2010-03-07 22:24:12Z

do you know his parents names?

Fred Brown

wagoncab — 2010-03-06 01:04:14Z

Looking for a Fred or Frederic Brown born 1877? Married a Mary. Went to Niles Michigan. In 1896 they were 18-19 or 19-20 years of age. Both stes of parents did not approve of their relationship so they left Canada. Some records say Mulmer Duffrin.
Please Help
Cindy Brown

Re: Picture of Katie & Ethel Woodland, Orangeville, Ont.

Allenroots06 — 2010-02-28 05:10:46Z

HI!
I believe this 2 women would be nieces of my great grandmother (Mary Jane Allen nee Woodland). In checking my records, Mary Jane's brother James had daughters named Catherine Malinda and Ethel Maria. All were from Mono Township in Dufferin County.

If you still have the photos, I would be glad to accept them.

Picture - Allen brothers? Ontario

mlsgs — 2010-01-31 17:39:16Z

Picture "Allen Brothers".
Can anyone identify the 2 men in this picture? Photographer:Henderson.
How do the Allen's fit into Island-Jenkins family tree, or do they? Thanks mls

Picture - Muriel E Jackson

mlsgs — 2010-01-31 17:28:49Z

Written on picture frame "Muriel E. Jackson, Aug 17, 1927, 4 years old" in pencil in large handwriting then "Margret & Will" same handwriting. Then in my mother-in-law's handwritng is "Maggie Allens daughter".
Photographer: Cooper Studio.
Assistance in identifying and any info on same . How might be related to Island-Jenkins family tree? Thanks mls.

Re: HENRY, Parsons Duane at Whitfield

vickycaruso — 2010-01-31 17:26:28Z

Hello,

Parsons Duane Henry was my great-great grandfather on my father’s side.

He was born in Adams Centre, New York (this according to the Death registration of his youngest son, John Wesley Whitfield Henry) on July 16, 1836. His father was Edward Henry and his mother was Chloe Thayer. There are a couple of paragraphs regarding Parsons in a book called “History of Dufferin County” page 144 that are worth checking out.

He married Margaret Campbell, I would say, around 1858. However, up until now, I have not been able to locate the exact marriage date. They had 5 children:

1) Frances – born June 17, 1859 – died January 11, 1923.
She married Edward McFadgen on October 9, 1889. They had two daughters:
Elizabeth Ann (my grandmother) born on October 4, 1891 – died ?
Caroline Pearl born December 3, 1894 – died May 17, 1929

2) Chloe Maria Elise – born 1861 – died May 28, 1875

3) Margaret Jane – born November 7, 1864 – died August 20, 1867

4) Asahel – born October 20, 1866 – died ? He married Mary Jane Gray on January 9, 1889. They had one daughter here in Ontario and then moved out to Saskatchewan where they had two sons and two more daughters.

5) Margaret Ann – born July 20, 1867 – died July 2, 1907. She married James Henry Wilkinson on December 10, 1888. They had two daughters and two sons.

Parsons’ wife Margaret died January 24, 1871 and on April 26, 1871 he married Caroline Ann Hamilton.

I have further information on the children from that marriage as well as more info on the children with Margaret Campbell. Please advise if you would like to have that. I see by your last name you must be related to Elizabeth Jane Henry who married Albert Edward Longhurst so I’m not sure whether you already have a lot of that information.

Hoping to hear from you.

Vicky Caruso

Picture of Katie & Ethel Woodland, Orangeville, Ont.

mlsgs — 2010-01-10 04:07:53Z

Seaching for a relative to be able to send this picture to. Found in a box of pictures of Will & Mary Island originally from Orangeville, Ont. Moved west to Sk. in 1916.
Hand written on the back by the daughter of Will & Mary is the following: Katie & Ethel Woodland, Orangeville, Ont. close neighbors and friends of Will & Mary Island.
Photographer was J.Lynn, Orangeville,Ont.

Picture of M.F. Scanlon

mlsgs — 2010-01-10 03:42:42Z

Picture - Searching for a relative to be able to send this picture to. Found in a box of pictures of Will & Mary Island
who were originally from Orangeville,Ont and who moved west in 1916 to Scotsguard,Sk.
Written on the back is the following "Mrs Will Island In Commemoration of our Birthdays April 2nd 1911 M.F.Scanlon
I am taking this to be a "S" for surname.
Photographer was Geo R Gray Orangeville, Ont.

Re: Family History Books for East Garafraxa

calgarydon — 2010-01-08 22:19:31Z

Hi,

My email address is calgarydon@gmail.com. I'd love to hear from you.

Don

Re: Family History Books for East Garafraxa

BMiner4422 — 2010-01-08 21:23:49Z

Thank you for information. I have the "East Garafraxa" book, but misplaced it when I was responding to Don. I would love to contact him, because I think he may be related to me.

Re: Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

jmartin88 — 2010-01-08 19:03:56Z

Dear mlsgs:

You are to be congratulated for taking the time and interest to post these wonderful pictures. My family is SHAW in Brampton, Caledon and Orangeville area. I was thrilled to find the 3 photos that you posted together. I have no idea who they are, they not be my Shaws at all, but one never knows.

Thank you again,
C.Martin, Owen Sound

Re: Family History Books for East Garafraxa

sheiladavidson11 — 2010-01-08 18:49:41Z

Chapters on all but the surname Redmond are included in the book "East Garafraxa: A History" by Steven J. Brown and Krista A. Taylor - published in 2006.

Re: Hugh McGowan

BMiner4422 — 2010-01-07 04:25:06Z

There is a book out on the Hugh McGowan and Agnes Baird and their families.

Re: Family History Books for East Garafraxa

BMiner4422 — 2010-01-07 02:41:04Z

Redman, Hawes, Haws, Redmond, Nodwell, McGowan & McBride are all names included in the book "Family of Hugh McGowan & Agnes Baird: The Ontario Connection" published in 2007.

Re: Pics #43,44,45 - Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

mlsgs — 2010-01-06 23:39:03Z

Pictures #43,44,45 are included together as think they are of the same family. On the back of the family picture on the bottom and in tiny hand writing in fountain pen ink is written Mrs. Shaw.

Picture #43 - couple

Picture #44 - Family picture (man with beard appears to be the same man as in the couple picture but younger)

Picture #45 - two girls (These appear to be the same girls as in the family picture front row but with different clothes. The hair style of the girl sitting down is the same as in family picture but the other it is difficult to tell as her head is being held straight on to the camera in the family picture.

Re:Pic #42 - Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

mlsgs — 2010-01-06 22:49:54Z

Picture #42 - unknown male, photographer - Milne's Medicine Hat, Alta.
I have included as feel he was originally from Orangeville, Ont as some of the Jenkins and Islands did move out west. I also have seen this individual in another picture I am sure.

Re: Pic # 41 - Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

mlsgs — 2010-01-06 22:43:27Z

Picture #41 - unknown male , Photographer J. Lynn, Orangeville. This individual looks familiar as if I have seen on a group picture I have in the pile to go through again.

Re: Pic #40 - Unidentified photos for individuals from Orangeville,Brampton, Toronto area

mlsgs — 2010-01-06 22:30:52Z

Picture #40 - unknown young man, photographer - Still, Orangeville, Ont.