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Re: McGuire, Menzies, Wright of Halton

cherylkemptaber  (View posts) Posted: 16 Nov 2008 5:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Some overlaps are here with another response you received:

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
George Wright , b. Ontario, residence Esquesing Tp., age 24, parents- Ebenezer & Martha, spouse - Catherine Mingis (should be Menzies), age 28, born Esquesing, parents- John & Isabella, married Oct. 15 1858, Halton Co.

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
Isabella Menzies, born Scotland, residence Esquesing, age 38, parents- John & Isabella, spouse- William Robinson, 38, b. Ireland, residence Luther Tp., parents- William & Mary, married 14 Jan 1861 in Esquesing, Halton Co.

Ontario, Canada Census Index, 1871
George Wright, 36, b. Ontario, residence Esquesing Halton Co., origin- English, Laborer, Div. 5, Microfilm C-9947, pg. 26, Head of household

1881 Ontario Census, Georgetown, Halton Co.
George Wright M Male English 48 O Ontario Labourer Baptist
Catherine Wright M Female Scottish 52 O Ontario Baptist
Martha Wright M Female Scottish 22 O Ontario Dressmaker Baptist
Isabella Wright Female English 20 O Ontario Knitter Baptist George Wright JR. Male English 16 O Ontario Paper Maker Baptist
Annie Wright Female English 11 O Ontario Baptist

Ontario Marriage Register # 014432- Bella Wright, 26, born Norval, ON, residence Toronto, parents- George & Catharine Wright, married in Toronto, York Co, on Nov. 1, 1886, to David McGuire, 26, b. Jersey City, USA, Machinist, parents David & Elizabeth (Note: Norval, ON, is located in Halton County)

Ontario Marriage Register # 015049 - Annie Wright, 19, residence Toronto, b. Canada, parents- George & Kathleen Wright, married in Toronto, York Co., on Aug. 19, 1889, to Henry Thomas Knight, 24, b. Toronto, parents- William & Elizabeth

1891 Ontario Census, Esquesing Tp., Halton Co., Div. 1, pg. 30
William Early 32 b. Ontario
Matilda J Early 26 b. Ontario, wife (my note- d/o Joseph & Matilda Leslie)
Matilda J Early 4 b. Ontario
Annie G Early 2 b. Ontario
George Wright 56 Married, born Ontario, parents b. Ireland, Free Church Domestic

1891 Ontario Census, Esquesing Tp., Halton Co.,
William Robinson 72 b. Ireland
Isabella Robinson 80 b. Scotland
John Menzies 70 b. Ontario

Ontario Marriage Register # 015176 - Martha Wright, 34, b. abt 1858 in Norval, ON, residence Toronto, single, parents - George & Catherine, m. 19 Oct 1892 in Toronto, York Co., to Thomas Dodds, 33, b. Mono Tp. Cardwell, parents- Robert & Sarah.

Ontario Death Register #021477- Martha Dodds, 34, b. abt 1859 in Canada, died 9 Mar 1893 York Co., Toronto, of T.B.

Ontario Death Register # 010443 - John Menzies, 78, b. Esquesing Tp., died Sep. 17, 1897, on Con. 11 Lot 11 Esquesing Tp., Disciple; informant was George Wright

Ontario Death Register #010766 - George Wright, died of Paralysis on Mar. 24, 1899, 67 yrs old, Con. 11 Lot 10 Esquesing Tp., Halton Co., ON, Labourer, born Brighton, Ontario; Robert Watson was the informant.

Index to the Surnames in the Hillcrest-Norval Cemetery, Halton Co., Esquesing Tp., Con. 10 Lots 10 & 11:
Wright
Menzies
Robinson

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON TORONTO (East/Est) (City/Cité) (#117)
Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 2 B-3 Page 15
15 21 155 Knight Henry F M Head M Jun 30 1864 36 b. ON
15 22 155 Knight Annie F Wife M Nov 1 1871 29 b. ON
15 23 155 Knight Bertha F Daughter S Oct 29 1891 9 b. ON
15 24 155 Knight May F Daughter S Apr 9 1892 8 b. ON
15 25 155 McGuire Bella F Sister In Law Widow Jan 7 1867 34 b. ON
15 26 155 McGuire Alice F Niece S Mar 7 1890 11 b. ON
15 27 155 McGuire David M Nephew S Mar 16 1892 9 b. ON
15 28 155 Knight Elizabeth F Mother Widow Feb 14 1845 56 b. England

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON Halton (#68)
Subdistrict: Esquesing C-2 Page 3
3 9 23 Robinson Isabella F Head Widow Jan 17 1811 90 b. Scotland
3 10 23 Wright Katherine F Sister Widow Jul 2 1827 73 b. Ontario

Ontario Death Register # 012233- Isabella Robinson died 19 Apr 1906 Esquesing Tp., Halton Co., aged 95 yrs 3 mos 2 dys old, residence Norval, born Scotland, Disciple; informant- W.H. Wilson (my note- this would make her birthdate Jan. 17, 1811 which agrees with the 1901 Census. On www.familysearch, it says she was born in Dull, Perth, Scotland)

1911 / Ontario / Toronto East / 38 Toronto / page 25
18 270 Knight Henry 39 Knox Ave M Head M Jun 1866 44 - 39 Knox Avenue
19 270 Knight Annie F Wife M Nov 1870 40
20 270 Knight Bertha F Daughter S Oct 1891 19
21 270 Knight May F Daughter S Apr 1893 18
22 270 Wright Katherine F Mother-in-law Widow Jul 1826 84 b. Ontario

1911 / Ontario / Halton / 31 Georgetown / page 2
10 14 McGuire Bella F Head W Sep 1860 51
11 14 McGuire Alice F Daughter S Mar 1891 20
12 14 McGuire Davis M Son S Mar 1892 19
13 14 Meldrum Norman M Lodger S Feb 1891 20
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Ontario Death Register # 002369 - Catherine Wright, Widow, died on March 2, 1921, at 39 Knox Ave., Toronto, 94 yrs old, b. Ontario, informant - Mrs. Maguire, daughter, 39 Knox Ave., Toronto; burial Norway
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Regarding John Menzies Sr., father of Catherine, I believe the following write-ups may be him:

Disciples of Christ congregations -
By 1820 a Scotch Baptist congregation was established in Esquesing Township, Halton County, Ontario by elder John Menzies. Later, Menzies obtained copies of Alexander Campbell(s Millennial Harbinger which were said to have "enlightened" his mind very much. Through Menzies influence the congregation at Esquesing (Norval) grew into the principles of Mr. Campbell(s reform. Spreading the reform principles outward from there, and with the help of others such as E. T. McIntntyre and Joseph Ash, publisher of the first Disciple paper in Canada -The Gospel Vindicator, soon enough congregations were formed that by June 1843 the Disciples in Ontario were able to call their first annual meeting of delegates and brethren, which took place at Esquesing
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Disciple movement in Ontario-
John Menzies, a Scotch Baptist, also from Perthshire, c. 1821,

William Trout and John Menzies, of Esquesing (Norval) church were Scotch Baptists; but they founded churches which later became Church of Christ, or Disciples.
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In the late 1830s William Trout had a lease on a flour mill at Norval, Esquesing Twp. The family attended meetings in the large family home of Elder John Menzies, who generally preached. A log meeting house was built on Menzies’ farm and Trout became "second to the elder in the leadership of the congregation," (p. 61) Indeed the congregation’s records list the arrival of William Trout, pastor, in 1838. (RB 390) The family was there until 1845. Trout’s son tells a story about one time when his father challenged Menzies on the propriety of examining baptismal candidates using "old hard catechetical questions". He says that Menzies pondered the challenge, then said, "go on and have it your own way." (pp. 61-62)
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I found the death register for a Robert Menzies, 89 yrs old (B. abt 1794) who died in Esquesing Tp., on Apr. 24, 1883. He was born in Perthshire, Scotland, so he is more than likely connected to your Menzies.

http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/rbutchart/dcc/DCC25.HTM
Also, it would appear that John Menzies had a son, James:
Esquesing Township, Halton County, Ontario -
Jos. Ash, who first chronicled the churches of the Disciples in Canada (meaning for him, Ontario) wrote "the church at Norval in the township of Esquesing, was planted in 1820, by the late elder John Menzies, on the principles and after the order of the Scottish Baptists; John Menzies, William Trout, and James Mitchell, being elders (Christian Worker, Meaford, November, 1883). The church's own records declare that the foregoing were "ordained", even though later years brought trouble elsewhere where ordaining was attempted. Ash attributes this rise of a new church to John Menzies having, about the year 1836, read certain numbers of the Millennial Harbinger, and that his son, James Menzies (afterwards clerk of the church) said the reading enlightened his father's mind very much, but no one knows when his views were altered.

The present writer in much later years, secured the loan of the church original and only book of record from a member of the Menzies family, living in Toronto; also the wooden 'offering' box and communion cup. The records are explicit about such matters as membership and of baptism, death, removal, and where removed to, and include the financial records and much other interesting information. The list is too long to print, but it revealed the names of many who helped to make Disciple history elsewhere in the Province, for many migrated to and from Esquesing. The aforesaid elders' constituted a church on 26 February, 1843, in the adjoining township of Toronto, and likely helped the cause to exist in another adjoining township, Chinguacoucy, as well. The Esquesing (Norval) record book was headed "Church of Christ in Esquesing, instituted in 1820", which seems to indicate that certain events, occurring before the compilation was begun, led up to the new title, for it was a Scotch Baptist church, not a Church of Christ, or Disciples. (Reason for this follows in a footnote.) Thus, elder John Menzies, actuated by Scriptural and pious motives began [389] to 'gather' a church together. He and his wife, Isabella, placed their names at the top of the roll, with himself as 'pastor'--evidently a Scotch Baptist office. The next entry is for Duncan McKinnon, deacon, in 1824. Mary McKinnon, and Grace Robertson, were added in 1826. James Mitchell, 'pastor' appears in 1835, and also Alexander Anderson who was later to go to Eramosa (after burning his fiddle as a sign of consecration to the Lord's cause) and afterwards became a member of the six "Ontario Pioneer Preachers. William Trout, 'pastor' was added in 1838, and in 1845 he moved to St. Vincent township, Grey County, where he became a church founder. He himself had been baptized by elder MacLaren, of Erin, before coming to Esquesing. In St. Vincent, William Trout led with others in the founding of a church which became known as Meaford. He was an enterprising and energetic worker in the cause, and was called in special counsel with other churches. Besides this, he evangelized in new districts.

Returning to the Norval story, on 15 November, 1839, James Menzies is called 'deacon'. This chronicler afterwards came to know and love him in Toronto, where he was for years beloved for his leadership in the West End work (Denison Avenue).

From Jos. Ash's "Reminiscences", it seems clear that the church founded in 1820 and called the "Church of Christ" in its records, really was a Scotch