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Alice Hamilton

Keimly  (View posts) Posted: 24 Oct 2009 11:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hamilton, Morgan
Loking for infotmation on Alice Hamilton. She was the daughter of William Hamilton and Agnes Morgan, born in Hibbert Township about 1857. She was 14 years in 1871 census. Any information would be appreciated.

Re: Alice Hamilton

kfbrzozowska  (View posts) Posted: 24 Oct 2009 11:04PM GMT
Classification: Query

Would this be your Alice Hamilton?

Ontario Marriages, Huron County, Usborne township
006242

John LAING
age 28, bachelor
residence: Hibbert, Ont
born Dalhousie, Ont
father: Alexander LAING
mother: Mary --
rel: Presbyterian
married
Alice Hamilton
age 17, spinster
residence: Hibbert, Ont
born: Ingersoll, Ont.
father: William Hamilton
mother: Mary --
rel: Presbyterian
Witnesses: John CHRISTIE, Fullerton, Ont.
Catharine Hamilton, Hibbert, Ont.
JUNE 6, 1873
Henry Gracey, Officiant

Kirsten

Re: Alice Hamilton

Keimly  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 12:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Kisten,
Thank you for the information. I have looked at that marraige a number of times, the only thing is Alice's mothers name was Agnes not Mary and the thing is she was born in Hibbert township, Perth County.
Again thank you for the information and have a great day.

Re: Alice Hamilton

satch42179  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 1:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think the marriage could be your Alice Hamilton.

Hibbert Tsp as you stated is in Perth County and it also borders Huron County where Alice was married to John Laing. Ingersoll is in Oxford County which is next door to Perth.
The marriage was registered im Usborne Huron which is next door to Hibbert Perth.
Sometimes the names Agnes and Mary are interchangeable. Also the registrar may just have gotten the name wrong. Also registrar may have mixed up the mother's names as the groom's mother's name was Mary.

Regardless of whether this is your Alice or not I cannot find them on any further census, births, or deaths.

There is a William Hamilton buried Cromarty Presbyterian, Hibbert Tsp. There is no Agnes but there is an M A and a couple of Marys.
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php

William Hamilton died 1880 but I did not see a registration for either an Agnes or Mary on Ancestry.ca

Re: Alice Hamilton

Keimly  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 4:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
William Hamilton died Aug.9, 1880 and is buried in Roy's Cemetery, Fullarton Township, Perth County.
Agnes Morgan Hamilton is in the 1881 census in Hibbert Township, Perth County. She remarried a John Gardiner Oct.1, 1884 and died Feb.11, 1908 and is buried with William Hamilton in Roy's Cemetery as Agnes Hamilton.

Re: Alice Hamilton

satch42179  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 7:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Wouldn't it have been nice if daughter Alice had been a witness at mother's marriage.

Re: Alice Hamilton

Keimly  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 8:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
If you look at the marriage of Agnes Hamilton and John Gardiner, he was living in U.S. at time of marriage. If they moved there after, that is why there is no death Registeration for either of them.

Re: Alice Hamilton

satch42179  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 9:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Think maybe Alice was living in US as well and that is how mother met 2nd husband?

Re: Alice Hamilton

satch42179  (View posts) Posted: 25 Oct 2009 10:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
You have likely tried all these ideas.

If Agnes was buried in Canada and you know the death date is there any chance you can get the registration. With any luck the informant may give you a clue to Alice's whereabouts.
There would have to have been some kind of paper work to get a body across the border.

This is a supreme longshot. On 1881 census there is a John and Allace Gardner in New York, both b Canada. She is the right age and first child was born when she was about 17. Both children were born in US.
I am out of ideas and have no sites for US information.
You can join Ancestry free for 14 days and maybe get some information there.
Good luck.

Re: Alice Hamilton

tireeisle  (View posts) Posted: 2 Nov 2009 3:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Regarding Alice Hamilton daughter of Wiliam Hamilton and Agnes Morgan, I looked up the farm entry from the Hibbert Township History Book printed in 1996, (submitter unknown)

In the spring of 1849, two brothers, William and Francis Hamilton, from Dalhousie Townsip in Lanark County, came to Hibbert. Will leased this lot (Lot 8, Con 10) and Francis Lot 7. They built a cabin on William's lot and lived here together for a time. Will married first, before a Fullarton church congregation had been organized. Thus, a minister from London came to Hibbert to marry him and Nancy Morgan. They raised Devon Cattle.

They had no family and when Will died in middle age in 1879 he willed his farm to his nephew Francis Roger Hamilton, known as Red Frank. William's widow lived in part of the house, her inheritance was $200 a year. If she left the farm which she did later, it was to be $250 a year.

Looking at the 1861 census, the marriage year is wrtten in for William Hamilton and Agness as 1856, and "Allic" age is 5 yr. In the 1871 census Alice's age is 14. I could not read the 1881 census as the copy is too faint.

The cemetery inscription from Roys Cemetery Fullarton township for Agnes Hamilton is as follows

HAMILTON/Agnes/wife of Wm. HAMILTON/died Feb 11, 1908/ aged 75 yrs. 10 mos./In memory of William HAMILTON/who died/ Aug 9, 1880/aged 56 yrs. 5ms. 20 ds./

This may indicate that William Hamiton was not buried along with his wife. A Presbyterian Cemetery was on a half acre of Lot 11, Conc 11, before the church was relocated to the village of Cromarty, and today only a monument to the original Hamilton ancestor remains standing. Possibly Alice and William Hamilton were buried here.

From the Hibbert History of 1996
(From Scotch broth and Irish Stew ... A History of Hibbert Townsihp 1846-1996)

A log church was built here in 1852, on land donated by Francis Hamilton and the congregation built a stone church in Cromarty in the 1860's. It is estimated that there are 30 unmarked graves there, and there is no plan for the pioneer cemetery.

Do you have any evidence that Alice lived after her father William's death?

Heather Burrow
(I grew up on the farm where the pioneer cemetery is, but not related to the Hamilton family)

Agnes Gardiner born abt. 1833 in Canada, married to John S. Gardiner born abt. 1825 in Scotland,
in the Iowa 1885 census for Tama County, locality Lincoln.

Living with them were James Gardiner age 21 and Robert Gardiner age 16, both born in Canada
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