Albany - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Vandercar -Dutch Reform Church of the boght-Look-up

swedick12009 — 2010-03-18 14:58:32Z

Thank you so much. There is a wealth of info on many other Vandercars on this site, but very little on the line I am looking for. I checked a website for the Church listings, but again that was in vain. But I'll keep looking deeper. I live in the Albany area and may start looking into some of the libraries and/or hall of records for some of these records.

The main source I have is the 1850 federal census with John Vandercar, his wife Mary, and their sons Richard and John and a William Fisher of unknown relation. I have an 1840 census for John Vandercar, but the info attached to that is minimal. The 1830 census for "John Vanderkar" is just the same.

I have an 1860, 1870, and 1880 census for the son Richard, but nothing after 1850 for John. Was wondering if he being a loyalist, did he and the wife take off to Canada during the war and stay there.

Sorry to hear about your father. I have a large family and I too am trying to be the "family historian" for all of us. I really got into it when I found a Stars & Stripes front page from 1945 that detailed the death of my grandfather in WWII.

Thank you again for your time and assistance.

Vandekar-Vandercar-Vandecar-Van De Carr - Albany area

swedick12009 — 2010-03-18 14:40:15Z

I am looking for info pertaining to the Vandecar family from the Albany area. It appears that my 4great-grandfather is John Vandercar, born abt 1807, who married Mary, and had at least one son, Richard Vandecar, born abt 1830, who married Sarah and had at least one son named Leonard, b.1862. Leonard had a daughter named Sarah (Sadie), b. abt. 1889, who had a daughter, Catherine in 1915, my grandother. Would anyone have any info on this line of the Vandercar/Vandecar family?

Re: Vandercar -Dutch Reform Church of the boght-Look-up

swedick12009 — 2010-03-18 14:39:29Z

I see you posted about a year ago, so this may be a shot in the dark. I see you may have your hands on some research pertaining to the Vandecar family from the Albany area. It appears that my 4great-grandfather is John Vandercar, born abt 1807, who married Mary, and had at least one son, Richard Vandecar, born abt 1830, who married Sarah and had at least one son named Leonard, b.1862. Leonard had a daughter named Sarah (Sadie), b. abt. 1889, who had a daughter, Catherine in 1915, my grandother. Would anyone have any info on this line of the Vandercar/Vandecar family?

Re: Vandercar -Dutch Reform Church of the boght-Look-up

bethvandercar — 2010-03-18 14:18:05Z

I will look for these papers and will be happy to forward a copy to you. My Dad, Edward Vandercar , passed away May 16th , 2009 (at 95 years old) - in his sleep. He was the historian but I'll do my best.
I think I may also have some records from the Dutch Reformed Church - I'll search.

Re: David or Denis Duhig Ireland

lesleyquinlan — 2010-03-18 07:13:20Z

I am not sure about that. His father was Thomas Duhig.
And yes it was Denis in the link you sent "Squirrel Farm"

I did look at the other passengers on the ship no others from Emly co.Tipperary but some from Limerick which I know the family had contections to.

They were William Bourke 25
Michael Hogan 20
Daniel Dunworth 29
Catherine Magner 21

We have no stray John's who could have travelled with him.
I got this info off the Ellis Island site
Thank you so much for your help. Hope all this makes sense just rushing off to work. Will have another look when I get home
Regards Lesley

Re: David or Denis Duhig Ireland

chatterchit — 2010-03-17 21:08:43Z

I noticed on Denis' entry in the ship manifest someone wrote "John" next to Denis. Could that be his real first name? Or his father's name? Or a relative's with whom he was traveling? Do you have access to that manifest?

Re: David or Denis Duhig Ireland

chatterchit — 2010-03-17 21:00:10Z

I found a website with several "hits" on Denis Duhig (I don't know whether they are for "your" Denis, though.) Take a look:

www.fultonhistory.com

Re: David or Denis Duhig Ireland

chatterchit — 2010-03-17 20:50:57Z

This is probably "your" Denis:

Name: Denis Duhig
SSN: 131-14-5748
Last Residence: 12523 Elizaville, Columbia, New York, United States of America
Born: 25 Jun 1908
Died: Jan 1971
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

You could contact the public library nearest to his last residence to ask what newspapers were in circulation then and whether they have them. They also might have an obits index/file.

I'll see if I can find anything else online...

David or Denis Duhig Ireland

lesleyquinlan — 2010-03-17 17:07:55Z

I am trying to find out what happened to 2 relatives.

The first is David Duhig from Co.Limerick Born 18th Jan 1876.
He emigrated to the USA and I believe ended up in New Mexico.

The other is
Denis Duhig born in 1908 Emly co.Tipperary and he sailed on the Munchen arriving in New York on the 10th June 1928. He as nearly 20 at the time.
He died in Albany New York early 60's I think.

Any help anyone can give would be wonderful
Thanks Lesley

Re: Albany County Marriage information

hedgeturner — 2010-03-16 18:37:35Z

Marriage or Death records were not kept by NY State, Albany County or Albany city until at least 1870. You would have to find specific church or cemetery records, or find a newspaper article.

Re: NYS index lookup

aggieway — 2010-03-16 01:45:59Z

Hi Patty,

I checked the NYS Vital Records Index for 1889-1891 and the only death for a Forget in the Cohoes area was Franseste Forget who died 6/9/1889 in Cohoes, record # 19978. I suppose Esther could easily be a nickname for Franseste. I could not find an obituary in the Cohoes Daily News for her. If this is not her and you need more years searched, please post again.

I checked marriages 1889-1891 too-just in case-and found only these in Cohoes: 1) Delia Forget, 8/13/1890, # 12827 and 2) Alice Forgete, 10/11/1891, #17794. (Index does not show to whom married.)

Mary Anne

Re: James McGowan/McGowen

Dretsch — 2010-03-15 19:21:47Z

This is an old post but have you any more information on this line? I think we have a sister to Phebe McGowan.
Email me at allenenger@hotmail.com

Re: House of Good Shepherd & St. Mary’s School of Industry…

_McMahon_ — 2010-03-15 13:22:26Z

Thanks Mary,

Despite my best efforts to type things correctly, I still make mistakes (very frustrating). You are correct of course, sorry for confusing those who I am asking to help me.

The "magdaleon's" were listed directly below the "sisters" on the census, and then below the magdaleons, the "inmates" were listed. I have a social security SS-5 from my relative that says she was a nun. So I am thinking that maybe a magdaleon was a nun in training?

This is what is great about genealogy. You get to learn about geography, history, ethnic cultures, occupations, etc.

I will start with what you gave me. Thank you for the e-mail of the Sister archivist. Perhaps I can ask her about that title.

Thanks again.

Joe

Albany County Marriage information

pswags1 — 2010-03-15 03:02:55Z

Can anyone tell me if there death records available for 1864?

Re: House of Good Shepherd & St. Mary’s School of Industry…

aggieway — 2010-03-15 02:43:18Z

Hi Joe,

This is actually St Ann(e)'s, and not St Mary's. I believe it is the same organization that survives today. Please check out http://www.stanneinstitute.org/about/history.cfm

Also, there is a 1901 article about likely the same organization at http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=980DE0DE153DE...

and probably many others if you will Google St Ann's (or St Anne's). I do not have personal knowledge about them.
Should you have difficulty finding out what you need to know directly from St. Anne's, there is an archivist at the Roman Catholic Diocese (which I am guessing had jurisdiction over St Anne's when it was run by the Sisters of the Good Shepherd prior to 1981) named Sr. Nola Brunner (nola.brunner@rcda.org) who has been enormously helpful to me in the past.

As far as "Magdaleon"--could this derive from Magdalene (as in Magdalene laundries) and refer to a laundry worker? It does sound as though 'laundry reformatory' may have been an accurate description at some time in the past.

Good luck!

Mary Anne

House of Good Shepherd & St. Mary’s School of Industry…

_McMahon_ — 2010-03-15 01:25:37Z

Hello to all,

I have a first cousin (2x removed) that I found in a 1930 census for the “House of Good Shepherd and St. Mary’s School of Industry” in Albany, New York. My cousin is listed directly below those listed as “Sisters” as a “Magdaleon”. Can anyone share information on this organization with me? I understand it might have been a reformatory? I have also found some very negative comments about a similarly named organization in Ireland that was a laundry reformatory. So, I am a little confused, my searches are not very informative about the institution in Albany, New York. Can anyone help with an informative link or website and does anyone know what a “Magdaleon” was? Here is the document I am looking at. My relative is Josephine Mahoney on line 43. Thank you.

http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6224&ii...

Regards,

Joe

NYS index lookup

PattyKrueger10 — 2010-03-11 07:31:18Z

An Esther Forget, widow, is last found in the Cohoes directory 1889-1890. Unknown if she dies or remarries at that point.

Would someone be able to check the death index for a few years from that point?
If she doesn’t show up there could you check if she is instead in the marriage index?

We don’t find her in the 1900 census (but maybe she's remarried). I can’t find an obit for her in the online newspapers that I can access. We are trying to find her family (children & husband) so if we could find her death date that might lead to an obit w/helpful info.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Searching for death/burial information for Caroline Miller

sfh2006 — 2010-03-10 16:58:15Z

I am trying to locate the burial site or death information for Caroline Miller b. 1853 in NY. Died 1869-1870 in Albany County, NY. Last known residence was United States Arsenal in Albany.
Parents were Michael and Elizabeth Miller. Found parents in Troy, NY in 1870.

Any help would be appreciated!!

Cohoes - City Directories 1861

2010-03-10 15:23:30Z

Does anyone know where I can find the city directories for Cohoes. My ancestor, Pierre Blais came over from Canada June, 1860. I know he lived on Congress Street in 1880. Trying to find where he was prior to that.
Also, was Cohoes, always part of Albany County? Does anyone know where I can obtain information on Cohoes? Thanks. Please reply directly to familysrcher@aol.com

Re: Groesbeck

kharbury1 — 2010-03-10 05:09:39Z

I am just coming back to genealogy after some years away from it, and after my old computer crashed. I am sorry to say that I do not know the answer to your question. Hope you have since found some answers.

Re: Loockerman, Teller, Goewey Netherlands to Albany, NY

kharbury1 — 2010-03-10 05:05:40Z

Since my last response to others, I have moved, etc. and it has not been until just now that I could get back to genealogy. Thank you for your information. I wish I knew the answers to your question.

Re: Robert Davidson

frieddillpickle1 — 2010-03-09 19:01:02Z

Thank You. I found one that was a reprint. Thanks again

Re: Lawrence McIvor - Nova Scotia to New York

sandimcintyre51 — 2010-03-08 14:31:35Z

Good Morning Mary Anne: I very sorry it took me so long to reply to your message.

Not much computer time between work and family - the days just go by so quickly.

Thank you so much for taking the extra time and the searching you did.

This McIvor is really a strange thing - here's the reason I thought he was one in the same.

I can't remember where I saw it (will recheck) but on some document I saw the Lawrence in N.Y. was from N.S. and born @1896 which is correct for who I'am searching.

Once time permits I'am going to get back into searching.

Thank you once again for all you help - time and suggestions.

Have a great day!!

Sandi

Re: Robert Davidson

aggieway — 2010-03-08 01:15:34Z

Check out Google Books. There are several options for you there. The book was reprinted in 2008.

Good Luck!

Re: Robert Davidson

frieddillpickle1 — 2010-03-07 15:22:41Z

I found a table of contents that had him listed in chapter XI. "Retiring Officers of 1900-1902" I take for granted it is a book but I'm not sure. I was hoping to find a book if there is one, because it contains it looks like from the table of contents a lot of information about that period of time. I'm not sure if I could get a book now, since it was published in the early 1900's. I do have a photocopy of the page he is on. Thanks

Re: Robert Davidson

aggieway — 2010-03-06 03:16:10Z

Hi,

Could you please clarify this request? Are you looking to buy a copy of the book that someone may have for sale? Would a photocopy of the pages he is on suffice, or do you already have that? I can possibly help with a photocopy.

Robert Davidson

frieddillpickle1 — 2010-03-05 02:57:59Z

I was trying to find a book that my Great-great grandfather was in. He worked for the Police force in Albany, NY. I found him in the "History of Police Service of Albany from 1609-1902." on Pages 69-74. As a retiring Police Captain. His name is Robert Davidson, his wife was Margaret. If anyone can help, please let me know. Thanks

Marriage in Cohoes, NY

durrino — 2010-03-04 02:52:36Z

Hi. I,m looking for the marriage and parents of Edward Lagace and Alexandrine Marion. They married in Cohoes, NY in 1917.
Thanks, Rino

Re: Lawrence McIvor - Nova Scotia to New York

aggieway — 2010-03-03 01:09:23Z

Hi Sandi,

I looked into this a bit more for you. The NYS Vital Records Index has a marriage for Andrew L. McIvor on 9/11/1926 in Syracuse, certificate # 27807 (to whom married is not shown in the index). I checked Syracuse city directories for the surrounding years and, sure enough, found a listing for A. Lawrence McIvor (laborer) and wife Deltra M. at 204 Seymour in the years 1927 and 1928 only. There were no other McIvors in the directories for the years I checked.

I would have to conclude that Andrew L. is A. Lawrence. Based on the timing of his marriage (likely to Deltra), it would seem that he is not the same man who married Violet in 1928 in Canada, but who knows. Should you wish to pursue this further, you could send to NYS for his marriage certificate and check date of birth and parents' names. Or you might get lucky and get some help over the phone from vital records in Syracuse. I did look here in Albany for a newspaper account of the wedding, but the State Library does not have a Syracuse paper for that year.

Good Luck!
Mary Anne

Re: Bullock ancestors from Albany in the late 1700's and earley 1800's

blcarkner — 2010-02-28 22:33:39Z

I have ancestors who were in New Scotland, Albany Co who married into BULLOCK family. Earliest Bullocks appear to be Robert & probable brother John born circa mid 1700's.
Who are you looking for? what is your dead end Bullock - perhaps I can shed some light. Early sources would be church records, land records, early census, court records.
early newspapers, early city directories.
Many of the church records are in the NYS Library in Albany, NY. Many have been transcribed and can be purchased (Hope Farm Press [Kinship]is one)

Barbara

Re: Ward

edow2000 — 2010-02-22 15:00:11Z

Any Luck with your Chapman Ward? Based upon one of his sons, Ebenezer; there is a Chapman Ward who was born in the 1790's(?) and married Sarah (Jones) Ward, both natives of Albany, county, N.Y. Chapman Ward died in 1828 ( I don't have a location). Sarah was born in 1796 and died in Wisconsin in 1873. They had six children Ebenezer, Mary, Joseph, Chapman and Sarah

From History of Chittenden County, Vt.

Free Genealogy Meeting

canis1 — 2010-02-21 23:39:57Z

The Capital District Genealogical Society
will meet at the
Colonie Town Library
629 Albany-Shaker Road, Loudonville
Saturday Feb 27, 2010
2 P.M. to 4 P.M. The computer group will meet at 1 P.M. The computer group is an informal demonstration by one of our members of sites and tips to use on your computer
Special interest groups:German group meets at 12:00, Irish group at 12:30
The topic for the meeting will be
Three Cheers for the Old Card Catalog:
Finding family history with traditional aids at the Grems-Doolittle Library, Schenectady, NY
The speaker will be
Katherine Chansky
Librarian at Schenectady County Historical Society
Please join us!The meeting is free and open to the public.

Re: Lawrence McIvor - Nova Scotia to New York

sandimcintyre51 — 2010-02-20 19:27:39Z

Hi Mary Anne: Thank you so much for your reply and great information.

This A.Lawrence McIvor/McIver seemed to have gotten around with his wives, etc.

He was married first at age 26 in 1922 in Canada to Bessie Wells - she died in 1926.
Second wife Violet he married in 1928 in Canada, he's listed age 32 - Violet died in 1939 & on death info Lawrence is still listed as husband.

Maybe Lawrence had left her (Violet) early in the marriage and hooked up with Deltra and headed for N.Y - "who knows".

He may end up being one of my brick walls, which will happen from time to time.

Thanks once again for all your help and info - very much appreciated.

Have a great weekend.

Sandi

Re: NYS vital records lookup

dannybou — 2010-02-20 11:13:56Z

Hi Mary Anne

Thanks very much for the lookup.

Danny

Re: Lawrence McIvor - Nova Scotia to New York

aggieway — 2010-02-19 22:53:05Z

Hello,

This turns out to be of little help, but I did check the Albany City Directories for the years 1927-1932 for you. This man is shown as A. Lawrence McIvor, wife Deltra M., marble setter, 48 Dove St, for the years 1929 and 1930 only. No indication in the 1931 directory as to where he may have relocated. No other McIvors in this time period.

I noticed that the 1930 census shows him as age 34, first marriage at age 31--leaving little time for Bessie and Violet. Could be inaccurate of course.

Good Luck!

Mary Anne

Re: NYS vital records lookup

aggieway — 2010-02-19 22:35:19Z

Hi Danny,

This marriage record appears as:

Anthine Bisaillan and Zephirina Raymond, 5/28/1938, Cohoes, certificate #15297

Mary Anne

Re: NYS vital records lookup

aggieway — 2010-02-17 13:01:30Z

Hi Danny,

I will look next trip-shouldn't be long-and I will be back in touch.

Mary Anne

Re: NYS vital records lookup

dannybou — 2010-02-17 07:46:22Z

Hello

I wonder if I could ask for your assistance in a similar request. I am looking for the marriage of:

Anthime (Timmy) Bisaillon and Rose (Zepherina) Raymond in 1938.

Thanks very much
Danny

Re: HOOGHKIRK/HOUGHKIRK

KatieThornton283 — 2010-02-15 21:56:01Z

My great grandgather was Abraham Houghkirk of Albany, son of James, who was the son of Abraham and Mary. All were masons. I grew up in Albany, NY and I believe they may date back to "Lucas". Same branch your interested in?

Lawrence McIvor - Nova Scotia to New York

sandimcintyre51 — 2010-02-15 15:41:12Z

Hello: I'am trying to locate information on Lawrence McIvor who was born in Amherst, Nova Scotia - 6-30-1896.

His parent's were Joseph McIvor & Jennie McKenzie/McIvor.

I believe he 1st was married to Bessie Wells in Canada - 2nd wife Violet Burgess also in Canada.

I see from the Albany, New York census of 1930 there was a Lawrence McIvor from Canada with @ the same birth year and a spouse - Deltra.

I'am wondering if this could be the same Lawrence that was married 1st to Bessie Wells (she comes into our family genealogy from Nova Scotia)???

Any information on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Cone or Cunmyhus

judywasy — 2010-02-14 02:51:36Z

If you are still on Ancestry I would like to communicate with you. I have quite a bit of info on the Cone family. Would like to know where the Cunmyhus comes from as she is usually referred by the surname McFarland.

Judy jumawa@shaw.ca

Re: New Scotland

Katiemccue34 — 2010-02-14 02:48:58Z

Hi,

If you are still on Ancestry I would like to communicate with you. My brother in law was related to Isabella Beveridge who is living with Archibald Cone in 1860 and 1870. I thought her mother might have been a Cone.

Judy jumawa@shaw.ca

Re: NYS vital records lookup

aggieway — 2010-02-10 03:16:21Z

Hi Robert,

You are welcome.

Your answer and detail about obtaining the records is here:

http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/genealogy.htm

For your time periods, only NYC should be excluded.

Mary Anne

Re: NYS vital records lookup

rjd241 — 2010-02-10 02:45:41Z

Hi Mary Ann,

Thank you very much. This information is wonderful. I am so happy that you were able to locate a couple of them. My Evelyn Mackie's middle initial is I, so I am going to look into that record more. Is NYC the only city not included in the marriage index?

Thanks again for your help. I really appreciate it.
Robert

Re: NYS vital records lookup

aggieway — 2010-02-10 00:24:36Z

Hi Robert,

I had mixed results with these searches.

The good news is I found Robert H. Shea and Dolores T. Potvin married 8/15/1958 in New Lebanon-certificate # 28918. Also found Francis Fortier and Helen Shea married 11/18/1939 in Lebanon Springs-certificate # 35673.

I found nothing for either Vincent Venzi Brucatti or Bernice Whelan (soundex search) for 1945 to 1949.

The best I could do for John Finn and Elizabeth Murphy was find an Elizabeth Murphy married in Nassau (not far from Lebanon area) 9/4/1936-certificate #48338. However there is no marriage for a John Finn (or any other Finn) occurring on the same date. (Index does not show to whom married-need to search both names). I searched 1935-1937.

The best I could do for Edwin Stanley Lincoln and Evelyn Mackie was find an Evelyn I. Mackie married 3/2/1937 in New Lebanon certificate # 17662. Again there was no marriage for an Edward or Stanley Lincoln (or any other Lincoln) to match her with. I searched 1936-1938.

Hope this helps a little.

Mary Anne

Hussong: Philip-1825, Charlott-1826, Charlott-1850. From France?

cjhauer — 2010-02-09 20:15:47Z

1860 Census has this family in Rensselaerville. by 1870 they are gone.
looking for anyone who has ties to this family

Re: NYS vital records lookup

rjd241 — 2010-02-07 20:41:00Z

Hi Mary Anne,

Thanks so much for your offer to help. The information from the index will be very helpful. The items are:
John Finn and Elizabeth Murphy- 1936
Edwin Stanley Lincoln and Evelyn Mackie- 1937
Francis Fortier and Helen Shea- 1938-1941
Vincent Venzi Brucatti and Bernice Whelan- 1946-1948
Robert Shea and Dolores Potvin- 1958
Anything you can do would be grately appreciated. Please feel free to email me directly at rjd24@comcast.net if you would like.

Robert

Re: Daggett descendants!

sbdaggett — 2010-02-07 04:25:41Z

I am married to Francis (Frank) Samuel Daggett, son of Francis Samuel and Rose Daggett. Are you still looking for information about this family?

Re: NYS vital records lookup

aggieway — 2010-02-07 02:55:00Z

Hi Bob,

I can check the NYS Archives vital records index for you in the next week or so. It is an index only-won't give you all the details-but that's all that is free. Please post what you need and I would be happy to help you out.

Mary Anne

NYS vital records lookup

rjd241 — 2010-02-06 19:31:49Z

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to look up two marriage records from the late 1930's in the vital records in Albany. I would really appreciate any help.

Bob
rjd24@comcast.net