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Re: Pawlowski Family, Gasiewski family

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-18 02:10:40Z

Try www.fultonhistory.com and search in quotes "Stanislaw Gasiewski"

Hit Obit for a Stanislaw Gasiewski- Is this the right one??

Kathy

Pawlowski Family, Gasiewski family

gking828 — 2010-03-18 00:32:10Z

Seeking information on the Pawlowski family of Syracuse NY and Stanislaw Gasiewski. Specifically: how did Stanislaw end up in Syracuse (he immigrated in 1899), John Pawlowski: when did he immigrate,is there an obit for him? What is Julia's maiden name? What happened to Mary, Suzanne and John? Here's what I know:
John Pawlowski immigrated from Poland/Russia – date unknown.
About 1882 he married a woman named Julia (Ilya) They had 4 children: Mary b. abt 1883, Anna b 1886, Suzanne b. abt 1887 and John b 1891. Between 1890-92 the family lived at 204 Basin St, Syracuse. John is listed as a laborer. John probably died about 1893/94. Julia remarried to John Faris about 1895. John Faris and Julia had a son, John.
Daughter Anna married Stanislaw Gasiewski at Sacred Heart Church in July 1903. Stanislaw was the choir director of the church. Anna sang in the choir. This leads me to believe that the Pawlowski's were members of the Sacred Heart Parish.

Re: Seeking obit for Harold MILLAGE

ptownpest — 2010-03-17 19:30:18Z

Thank you for your response to my query. I'd be very interested in obtaining a photo of Harold and his wife,and if possible, more details about their descendants.

Please contact me at ptownpest at aol com

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kem

Re: Seeking obit for Harold MILLAGE

frcreno — 2010-03-17 14:41:11Z

Harold Millage was my grandfather - his daughter Jo Ann was/is my mom - he lived with my sister Paula when he died.

Hal Millage

frcreno — 2010-03-17 14:38:57Z

he was my grandfaher - Floyd Cochran
frcreno@yahoo.com

Re: Harry P. Wilcox

aurina — 2010-03-16 21:09:12Z

if i cant find your obit u can prob get it from flower mem library watertown. meanwhile, please go to the oswego county ny board where u would have been better off to post, and respond to my wilcox posting. if u do not respond, ancestry will not be able to notify u of new responses

Re: St Mary's Hospital-Syracuse, NY

aurina — 2010-03-16 20:44:23Z

no one here ever did have them-this is a genealogy message board. the messages posted said that they contacted catholic charities to find the birth records.
527 North Salina Street
Syracuse, NY 13208-2542
(315) 474-7428
www.ccoc.us

Harry P. Wilcox

steven1951_1 — 2010-03-16 00:57:46Z

Could someone look up an obit for Harry Wilcox of West Monroe, died April, 1956 Please? Probably in Post Standard or Herald Journal.

Re: St Mary's Hospital-Syracuse, NY

Scoobydoo19991 — 2010-03-16 00:06:30Z

My name is tammi martin, I was born at st marys i would lile to know if you good people would still have my birth recourds, please contact me with any info.

Thank,you
Tammi Martin.

Re: Chapman Schanandoah s/o Abram and Mary HoneyOust Schanandoah

aurina — 2010-03-15 23:05:00Z

no doubt u have this, but anyway-from www.fultonhistory.com the cayuga chief newspaper weedsport 12 march 1953
Chief Chapman Schanandoah,
pine tree chief of the Onondaga
Indian reservation and veteran of
the Spanish-American War, died
in St. Joseph's Hospital, Syracuse.
The chief claimed to be the first
Indian to have circled the globe
with the American Navy.
Full military honors were accorded
the dead chief when he was
buried in Onondaga Valley.
He was a direct decendant of
famous Chief Schanandoah. who
befriended George Washington and
aided Revolutionary troops and
American colonists.
other articles there-search "chapman shenandoah"
tells he was full blooded oneidan, politics, 1916 articles re new explosive he invented,honored by hamilton college,barn fire, picture of chapman,albert, mrs mary, some honyoats and others at land trial.
Newspaper Auburn NY Citizen Advertiser 1986 - 1072.PDF
...inherited the shawl on Feb. 22,1953, when her father. Chapman Shenandoah, died. As a child, she was fascinated with the shawl ...
1972 shooting death of another chapman,alberts death, many others

Re: obit: FULMER, Margaret Ann

ShirleyGriffith1946 — 2010-03-15 18:13:02Z

Who was your mother? Yvoone Lewis was 2 great grandmother

Chapman Schanandoah s/o Abram and Mary HoneyOust Schanandoah

sdholland — 2010-03-15 16:00:28Z

Chapman was b 1870 to Mary HoneyOust and Abram Schanandoah. He married Bertha Crouse and they had a dau Louella Schanandoah Derrick. Louella had a dau Sharlene Derrick Birchead. Chapman was b on "The Territory" and was a full blood Indian. Mary HoneyOust and Abram Schanandoah were al so full blood Indian. They had other sons-Albert,Nicholas, Earl Bart and Charles. Any response would be greatly appreciated.

Daniel J. BAKER

CaroleAlden — 2010-03-15 03:28:27Z

I just received the wills of Nathan Baker 1760-1836 and his son, Simeon Baker 1790-1838. Nathan came abt 1795 to Manlius, Onondaga Co., NY "Elder Nathan Baker is credited with "starting this church and was its first pastor. The first meeting was held (probably in his home) December 8, 1797." from the Manlius Town Historian .
1803 His only daughter, Lucy died and was buried at Pompey age 6 years. Her grave stone still stands.
1807 Pompey, Onondaga Co., NY "Lake Missionary Society," founded at his house Pompey, Onondaga Co., NY, where he preached for 32 years, he founded the First Baptist Church and Society in Manlius and Pompey.
1829 moved to Rega or Chili, Monroe Co., N.Y.
died 1836 New information leading me to Akron, Erie County, New York was found at Find A Grave website I had only known he was last living in Rega/Chili, Monroe Co., NY. He was not buried with his wife, Lucy there. His son Simeon's will names someone that I hadn't known before. His estate papers dated 1838 names a son, Daniel J. Baker about 12 yrs old. (son of Simeon) That is the only thing I know as yet, however, I did find a possible lead in the following and was hoping that someone might know more. It seemed promising as his brother, Simeon Baker was listed as Age: 31 born abt 1819 New York Gender: Male Occ: Gold Hunter in the 1850 United States Federal Census Clarence, Erie, New York. For more info see Family tree located at Rootsweb and Ancestry.com

TODD VALLEY CEMETERY
Placer County, California
Daniel J.Baker born May 2, 1827 Born,Pompey,Onondaga,NY Died,Dardanelle's,CA Feb 25,1861

Re: obit: FULMER, Margaret Ann

ShirleyGriffith1946 — 2010-03-14 02:50:24Z

She is also my 3rd great grandmother

Re: Aljuette Fulmer Lewis

ShirleyGriffith1946 — 2010-03-14 02:40:52Z

She is my gg-grandmother

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-12 21:10:12Z

Louisa Hardy

I found a 1930 Census record that I think is for her. The only problem the ages are 10 years off but census records are not always right.

1930 Census NYS Manhattan(Districts 251-500)
Westphal Louis H 51 Married @ 39 b NYC f Germany m NYC Proprieter-Manufacturing

Westphal Louise wife 36 married @24 b England- Parents England

Hardy Beth 34 Single b England- Parents England
Sister-in-law

[Married about 1918]

I think this is Elizabeth and Louisa Hardy On the obit for Sarah Hardy in 1933 they are both listed as living in New York City.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-12 17:19:26Z

Hi Kathy,

I have found on a very poor quality 1920 Census so I am not 100% sure of it, Clarence J Theurer 33 b Mass an Inspector at a Steel Plant, with his Wife Sarah 30 b England & son William 13 b new Jersey. They are in Erie Buffalo which also fits. Any comments or do you have a better quality Census?

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-12 16:23:28Z

Yes, I sent the information through the ancestry message system. I didn't want to post here as it has no connection to Onondaga County.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-12 15:53:14Z

Hi Kathy,

Thanks for your persistence it is appreciated.

Did you get my message that i would be more than happy to look into your UK Family History? Just let me know.

All the best,

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-12 15:41:41Z

Gladys Hardy

Not much information on her. She is listed as Gladys Curtis on her mother's obit in 1933

On the 1930 Census I found a George Curtis b about 1897- Married- listed with the family of Phoebe Hardy Silkworth and her husband, Arnold. He is listed as a brother-in-law. No wife is listed with him. He states that he was married about 1922.

I checked the WW1 records and George is listed as being born 31 May 1896.

I assume that he may be the husband of Gladys but I have not been able to find Gladys on the 1930 Census.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-12 01:58:29Z

If you google www.google.com "Margaret L Silkworth"

The 3rd hit titled Oswego County Today you will find the obit for Margaret, the wife of Arnold Silkworth. She died as a result of an accident.

I also found it on Ancestry. All of the obits that I typed out were found on Ancestry. On Ancestry there is a New York State historical newspaper site which has Syracuse papers on it. I would tell you how to access it but I am not sure how your Ancestry is laid out.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-11 21:21:11Z

Absolutely, please send me the details & I will work on it for you.

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 21:13:38Z

Geoff

You said you had access to Ancestry in UK Do you think you could look a few things for me? My husband's grandparents were both born in England.

If so, I will give you my e-mail

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-11 20:46:45Z

This is great I am using the Fulton site as we speak that is a great find thank you very much.

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 20:30:07Z

another site http://news.nnyln.net/ click on Oswego and search Silkworth
Hit # 10 is the marriage of Arnold R Silkworth to Margaret Becker"

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 19:37:24Z

Phoebe Hardy Silkworth

www.fultonhistory.com Search "Arnold A Silkworth"

Hit #3 7 Marriage license for Arnold A Silkworth and Phoebe Hardy
Hit #2-3-6 Obit for son of Phoebe, Arnold Silkworth.
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SSDI for Phoebe
Phoebe Silkworth
b 4 Jul 1896
d Feb 1980
Last residence-Syracuse
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SSDI for Son-Arnold
Arnold Silkworth
b 16 Apr 1917
d May 1980
Last residence-Fulton Oswego County
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Also search "Arnold Silkworth" Many newspaper articles about this family
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Obit for Arnold Silkworth, husband of Phoebe
Syracuse Herald Journal 22 Apr 1955

Silkworth-In Syracuse April 20 1955 Arnold A Silkworth, 107 Trinity Pl. Survived by wife-Phoebe Hardy Silkworth; one son.Arnold R Silkworth of Fulton. 4 grandchildren-2 sisters mrs Harriett Estey of Syracuse Mrs Hazel Fairbanks of Dewitt 3 brothers-Edward of Villas, NJ-Glynn of Rome and Dean Silkworth of Daytona Beach, Fl. Funeral Services at the Farfield Funeral Home Saturday at 2. Rev Richard M Morris officiating. Interment Oakwood Cemetery. Friends may call at 515 Westcott St Thursday 7-9 Friday 2-4 and 7-9
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WW 1 Registration has Arnold with Andrew as a middle name-born the 19 Oct 1894.
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Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 19:00:12Z

William Hardy

Not much info
Listed on 1930 census with his mother-single 36 years old
Listed as wounded in action during WW1

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Rexford William Hardy

Listed on both the 1920 and 1930 Census wife wife,Edna George, and children
Rexford William Hardy-1920
George R Hardy-1922

Go to www.fultonhistory.com and search
"Rexford Hardy'
"Rex Hardy"
Some newspapers about them
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Social Security record for Rexford Hardy, the son
SSDI
b 9 Dec 1919
d 29 Apr 2001

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 18:37:02Z

Mabel Hardy

She was single in 1933-married Walter R Group sometime after that.

Search on www.fultonhistory.com in quotes "Walter R Group"

Obit for Mabel 1990

No children

[The Margaret Silkworth listed as a niece is the wife of her nephew, Arnold Silkworth-who is deceased. He was the son of her sister, Phoebe Hardy Silkworth]

I think that the niece, Helen Bates is the daughter of Anna Hardy Beauregard. This may be her
SSDI
Helen I Bates
1 Aug 1911
29 Jan 2008
Last residence-Cortland, NY

Rexford Hardy is the son of her brother, Rexford Hardy,Sr.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-11 18:35:11Z

Thanks Kathy all great stuff.

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-11 18:07:54Z

Hi Kathy,

Once again many thanks I am getting quite a picture of this family which is great. Thank you.

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 17:58:09Z

I didn't mean the census in 1933-I meant Sarah's obit

Sorry

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 17:56:01Z

William and Sarah Hardy

I found the funeral notice for William and the obit for Sarah.

Syracuse Herald Journal 6 Feb 1920

Hardy Funeral Today

Funeral services for William Hardy who died Thursday morning at St. Joseph's Hospital will be held from the home-107 Whittler Avenue Saturday afternoon at 2 o'clock Burial will be in Oakwood
[died 5 Feb 1920]
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Syracuse Herald 2 Dec 1933
Mrs Sarah Hardy 72 who died yesterday at the home.153 Mayer St will be buried Monday afternoon in Oakwood Cemetery. The funeral services will be conducted at 2 o'clock
She is survived by 5 daughters
Miss Mabel Hardy
Mrs Gladys Curtis of Detroit
Mrs L Westfall and Miss Beth Hardy of New York City
Mrs C J Theirer of Buffalo
2 sons William and Rexford.
[There seems to be 2 daughters that are not listed-Phoebe and Lillian]. They are both still alive in 1933.

[died 1 Dec 1933]
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The spelling on one name Theyer(on 1917 obit for Anna) and Theirer(on 1933 Census for Sarah)-not sure which is right

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 16:50:36Z

Lillian Codling

SSDI
b 18 Aug 1900
d May 1974

Mrs Lillian H Codling of 415 Greenwood Place, died yesterday at Crouse-Irving Memorial Hospital.
She was the widow of Pat Codling, who died in 1960.
Mrs Colding was a member of St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral and was a member of the Liederkranz and Turners Auxilaries.
Surviving are 3 sisters-Mrs Louise Westphal, Mrs Phoebe H Silkworth and Mrs Mabel I Group and several nieces and nephews.
Services will be 1 pm Monday at the Garfield Funeral Home. The Rev Dr William B George officiating.
Burial will be in Oakwood Cemetery
Calling hours 2-4 and 7-9

Syracuse Herald Journal 4 May 1974
_________________________________________________
I just copied a few items from her husband's obit

Herbert P Codling
d 2 March 1960
b England-Emigrated 1919
Survived by wife-Mrs Lillian Hardy Codling
2 brothers-Charles W amd Edwin G
1 sister-Mrs Elsie C O'Hara- Surrey England
Burial Oakwood

It doesn't seem like they had any children

I also found an engagement announcement for Lillian in 1928 to a different man. Not sure if she married him and this marriage to Herbert Codling was her second???

I also have seen Louise Hardy's last name spelled as Westfall. Don't know which one is correct.

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-11 14:14:42Z

Hi Kathy,

Many thanks for this information, yes I can get the US Census but it gave me nothing on 1920 & 30 (I hit on 1900 & 1910 ok).
Your information has given me more to work on - thank you.

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-11 02:10:42Z

Can you get the U S Census records?

On the 1930 US Census Sarah is listed as a Widow. Living with her is William and Mabel. Also living with her is her granddaughter, Helen Beauregard, age 18.

I played around with Helen Beauregard's name and found her on the 1920 Census living with her father, Albert Beauregard. a widow.

So I tried a historical newspaper site

www.fultonhistory.com and searched in quotes "Albert Beauregard"

Hit #3 is the obit for Anna Hardy Beauregard
_________________
On that same site search "Anna Beauregard"
Hit #1 Funeral notice-Burial in Oakwood cemetery
________________________________
Search "Helen Beauregard"
Hit #1and #4 Of interest

Listed as survivors of Anna are her husband and daughter
parents, William and Sarah Hardy
Brothers-William and Rexford
Sisters-Lillian, Gladys,Mabel and Mrs Silkworth-Syracuse
Sarah Theyer of Detroit
Elizabeth and Louise Hardy of New York

Kathy

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-10 22:50:12Z

Thanks Kathy,

Yes I do have Ancestry but its Ancestry.co.uk so getting info is sometimes more difficult than you would think, but try or send direct to me at geoffiwalker@aol.com.

I really do appreciate your help as this is a large family of 13 with 3 deaths leaving 10 to research with only the info from the 1900 & 1910 USA Census to go on at the moment, so anything would be a bonus.

Thank you,

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

Kathydon217 — 2010-03-10 22:08:17Z

I have found information on several of the daughters of William and Sarah Hardy and will post later for you.

Do you have Ancestry? If not, I can post what I found there for you

Kathy

Re: GIDDINGS, David B.

lydiajgb — 2010-03-10 21:03:12Z

Hello,
My name is Lydia J. Giddings and I have acquired the Book of the Giddings from Minot S. Giddings. This old book pas published in 1882 and goes back to 1635 when George Giddings and his Wife Jane Tuttle came here on the Planter (ship) w/3 servants. There children born in Ipswich, ma. where Thomas 1638, John 1639, James 1641, Samuel 1645, Joseph Collins, Sarah, Mary and George. I was told this book is on ancestry.com and you can down load it. I just started reading it myself and finding the connection to today. Just thought you might want to know.

Lydia~

Re: Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-10 18:27:43Z

Dear dj3aj2cj1

Many many thanks for responding & with some very interesting information. This certainly looks like my Gladys Hardy as the age, the location & the possibility of a twin are correct. This will now take some looking into so if anyone can offer any suggestions as to how I can confirm the case of Gladys & her family difficulties with the authorities in Syracuse I would be most grateful for any help.
Thanks again you are a star.

Geoff

Re: Hardy Family from England

dj3aj2cj1 — 2010-03-10 15:59:10Z

Not sure if this newspaper article refers to your Gladys Hardy or not, but thought I'd pass it along. From the census it appears that Gladys and Mabel might have been twins, and this article makes reference to "Gladys and a twin sister".

The Syracuse Herald
Syracuse, New York
Sunday
April 20, 1913
Page 22

GLADYS HARDY IS
PUZZLING OFFICERS

Girl is Detained as an Ungovernable
Child

CRUEL TO OTHER CHILDREN

Shows Marked Improvement
Since Her Confinement at the
Detention Home

Home Influences
Blamed For Condition

The local probation officers are
watching with interest the case of
Gladys Hardy, who is now at the
Detention home. Her case has a
number of unusual features and it is
felt illustrates the value of the pro-
bation system and the Juvenile home
to a marked degree.
"When the little Hardy girl,who is
only 11 years old, was brought before
Justice Shove one week ago in
Childrens court it was on the charge
of being an ungovernable child. Her
mother declared that she was absolutely
beyond control and was not
amenable to moral suasion or punishment.
Her statements were corroborated
by Gladys's teachers, who
said that she was so cruel that it was
not safe to leave her alone with
younger children.
There was so much evidence of the
girl's unnatural characteristics that
after a brief examination in court Justice
Shove decided that she must have
some mental or physical defect to
cause such abnormal actions. He
ordered that she be held temporarily
for observation.
An Investigation of conditions at the
child's home brought out the fact that
the fault might not be all on Gladys
side. She is the youngest of a large
family and it was found that there had
been much quarreling especially between
Gladys and a twin sister.

Contented at the Home
Gladys is not a prisoner at the
Detention home, but is treated like one
of the family by Mr. and Mrs. A. D.
Strong, the superintendent and matron,
and since she has been there has given
no trouble, having been amiable and
sweet tempered. She is attending
Prescott school and her record there
for the week has been good.
The child seems perfectly contented
and happy and shows no
anxiety to go home. "It seems to be a
case of uncongenial surroundings,
said Mrs. Max Thalhelmer, woman
probation officer, yesterday, "and
shows what evil tendencies such surroundings
will sometimes develop in a
child not naturally bad." It has not
yet been decided what will be done
ultimately with the little girl and she
will remain at the home for the present.

Re: Scobell Ida

dj3aj2cj1 — 2010-03-09 15:13:10Z

1910 Syracuse Ward 8, Onondaga, New York
SCOBELL
John, 32, 1st marr. marr 5 yrs, Ill., Can., Can., Cigar Maker
Catherine, 29, 1 child 1 living, NY, Denmark, Ger.
Fred R., 6, NY, Ill., NY
*note* Name transcribed as Scobille. They are listed as Lodgers in the home of Anna Ottaway/Ottawey

1920 Syracuse Ward 6, Onondaga, New York
SCOBELL
John A., head, 40, Ill., Can., Can., Cigar Maker
Katherine I., wife, 38, NY, Denmark, Saxony (Ger.)
Frederick R., son, 14, NY, Ill., NY

1930
SCOBELL
John A., head, 52, 1st marr @ 27, Wisc., Can., Can, Chauffer
Catherine I., wife, 48, lst marr @ 24, NY, NY, Ger.
Fred R., son, 24, NY, Wisc., NY, Chauffer

WW1 Draft Cards
Name: John Alexander Scobell
Age: 39
Date of Birth: March 17, 1878
Address: 705 N. State St. Syracuse New York
Occupation: Cigar Maker
Employer: J. B. Harrison
Employer's Address: ?24 W. Onondaga St. Syracuse New York
Nearest Relative: Catherine I. Scobell
Address: 205 N. State St. Syracuse New York
Height: Medium
Build: Medium
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Black
Dated: September 12, 1918

Re: Scobell Ida

dj3aj2cj1 — 2010-03-09 14:28:40Z

Took a little bit of searching but I found Frederick's obit. Ida's obit states that Frederick died in November 1939 BUT it was really June 1939. People memory didn't seem to be very good back then I guess.

The Post Standard
Syracuse, New York
June 27, 1939
Page 19

Frederick H. Scobell, 626 Gifford
Street, died Tuesday morning in
Syracuse Memorial Hospital after an
illness or two years. He was a former
employee of the Moran Trucking
Company. Mr. Scobell was a communicant
of Saint Lucy's Church, and
a member of its Holy Name Society.
He is survived by his wife, Mrs. Ida
Sobell; a daughter, Miss Elizabeth
Mary Scobell, a son, Frederick Richard
Scobell: his parents, Mr. and Mrs.
John A. Scobell, and several aunts
and uncles. Funeral services will be
conducted at his home Friday at 9
A. M., and at 9:30 o'clock In Saint
Lucy's Church. Burial will be In St.
Anges Cemetery.

Re: SIMMONS, Albert W.

jcynsimmons — 2010-03-08 23:53:28Z

My husband's grandfather was named Elbridge Elry or perhaps it was Elry Elbridge, Simmons. I have not heard of many being named Elbridge so wondered if there could in any way be a connection.

Hardy Family from England

GeoffIWalker — 2010-03-08 23:06:09Z

Hi,

I have just found some of my Hardy family emigrated to New York, Onondaga in 1891/2 from Leeds Yorkshire England (also my home town).
I have found them in part on the 1910 & 20 Census but I have not been able to find any BMD. is anyone researching the Hardy name that could help find this large family.
William Hardy b 1858 Leeds & Sarah Ann nee Fletcher b 1859 Leeds had 13 children 3 of which died here are their names
Louisa b 1884, Elizabeth b 1886, Sarah b 1888 & Annie b 1891 all Leeds then William 1893, Phoebe 1896, Alfred 1899, Lillian 1901, Gladys 1903 & Mabel 1903 all NY Onondaga, Syracuse.
Can anyone help find these people & their families?

Re: Scobell Ida

pksal — 2010-03-08 17:15:21Z

Thank you so much for getting back to me in regards to my grandmother and for providing all the information that you did. If you find anything else on her or my grandfather Frederick Scobell (obit) that would be wonderful as well.

Re: NEGUS, Frank J.

meshelmybell — 2010-03-07 20:40:40Z

I have Fernando's parents as John Negus b.1785 and Hannah ?b.1786 Fernando's grandparents were Isaac Negus b.1762 and Pricsilla Oxx b.1763 Fernando's greatgrandparents were Nathaniel Negus b.1725 and Elizabeth Gallop b.1728

You have the father of John being Isaac which is right, but you have Priscilla marrying John and she was actually his mom.

I have gotten this info from much research and help from others. but it could be wrong. I am pretty sure it is right :)

Re: SOULE, FLINT

gregfren — 2010-03-07 17:02:37Z

I have a cabinet card photograph circa about 1880 of a boy with a rifle identified as Frank Flint Soule by a photographer from Benton Harbor, MIchigan.

I would sell for $45 including postage. Please let me know if you have any interest.

Greg French

Re: Scobell Ida

dj3aj2cj1 — 2010-03-05 18:50:48Z

Ida's age should read 29, sorry for the typo

Re: Scobell Ida

dj3aj2cj1 — 2010-03-05 18:50:08Z

Syracuse Herald-Journal
Syracuse, New York
May 10, 1940

MRS. IDA J. SCOBELL
Services for Mrs. Ida J.,Scobell
of 626 Gifford Street, who died
Tuesday, were conducted at 9 A.M.
Friday at the home of her parents,
Mr. and Mrs. John Drucak of 110
Hunter Avenue, and at 9:30 A.M.
at St. Lucy's Church. The Rev.
Thomas J. Hayes was celebrant at
solemn high mass of requiem, assisted
by the Rev. Paul S. Long, as
deacon, and the Rev, Charles. E.
Tracy, as subdeacon. Bearers were
Kenneth Alt, John Wojcik, John
O'Donnell, Fay Morris, Edward Caban
and John Schultz. Burial was
in Assumption Cemetery.

Syracuse Herald-American
Syracuse, New York
May 12, 1940

Suicide Pact
Seen in Death
Of 2 Women
Poison Kills Mrs. Gail
Shcctum After She At-
tends Friend's Funeral

Mysteries C1eared
Mrs. Ida Scobell Also
Said to Have Brooded
Over Health

That Mrs. Gail Sheehan. 52, of
625 Clifford Street, followed the
example of her friend, Mrs. Ida
Scobell, 2(, same address, in ending
her life by poison Friday after at-
tending the funeral of the younger
women, was the verdict given last
night by Dr. H. Ernest Gak, county
coroner, to clear mystery in the
two deaths, within three days.
His decision led police to close
their inquiry into the case and Detectives
Louis McMahon and Elmer
Turner, assigned to the investigation
by Police Chief William E.
Rapp, also expressed belief it was
a case of double suicide.
Coroner Gak maintained his
earlier verdict of "probable suicide"
in the case of Mrs. Scobell,
however, although he described
Mrs. Sheehan's death outright as
suicidal.
He released the body of Mrs.
Sheehan to David F. Kearney, funeral
director, after post-mortem
examination at the county morgue
showed she had died of the same
kind of poison that claimed Mrs.
Scobell's life.
The older woman was found in
convulsions at the home of nieces
and nephews at 161 Harold Street
Friday night and died shortly after
a doctor was called to her bedside.
Mrs. Scobell died similarly last
Tuesday morning at the Gifford
Street address shortly after she
awakened. Mrs. Sheehan was with
her when death occurred.
Then Mrs. Sheehan went to her
relatives' home in Harold Street
to stay, but became ill and went
to Crouse-Irving Hospital, where
she had been treated on several
previous occasions for a chronic
condition. She was discharged
from the hospital Friday morning
in time to attend Mrs. Scobell's
funeral and committal services at
Assumption Cemetery.
Relatives told Detectives Mc-
Mahon and Turner that both
women had long brooded over their
health and had talked of a suicidal
pact.
Mrs. Scobell had been despondent,
relatives said, since the
death of her husband, Frederick R.
Scobell, last November. She was
the mother of two children.
Mrs. Sheehan was the widow of
David Sheehan. She leaves a sister,
Mrs. Morton Martin of Buffalo;
two nephews, Martin Wilson
of Buffalo and Paul Franks of
Syracuse, and four nieces,
F. J. Wilson of Buffalo, Mrs.
Charles De Jourdan, Mrs. Robert
and Miss Jean Frank, all
Of Syracuse.
The funeral will take place from
the Kearney Funeral Rooms at 661
Gifford Street Tuesday afternoon
at 2 o'clock after sevices are conducted
by the Rev. Claude H. Leyfield,
rector of Trinity Episcopal
Church. Burial will be in Woodlawn
Cemetery.

Syracuse Herald
Syracuse, New York
January 15, 1932

BIRTH RECORD
Mr. and Mrs. Frederick Scobell (Ida
Srucink), 908 Highland Street, a daughter,
Jan. 12.

Re: Scobell Ida

pksal — 2010-03-05 17:29:32Z

I would love to see a copy of her obit. I am her granddaughter the daughter of her son Frederick. I do know that she did not die from natuaral causes however, as my father was very young when this happened it was never talked about too much. Any information would be great as well as for my grandfather Frederick Scobell. Let me know if you can help.