I am looking for any lead in locating the grave of my great great grandfather, Andrew Gunder Hanson (Hansen). The information I have discoverd so far is:

Father - Hans Dynge, b 1-11-1838, Norway, d 8-18-1907,
North Dakota, buried Elk Valley Lutheran Church Cemetery, Grand Forks County, ND.

Mother - Jertrud, b 1834, Norway, d 1927, North Dakota, buried Elk Valley Lutheran Church Cemetery, Grand Forks County, ND.

Spouse - Pauline (Lena) Fagstad, b. 1866, d 1896, North Dakota, buried Elk Valley Lutheran Church Cemetery - their marriage record in the church shows the last name spelled "Hansen" but her grave is marked "Hanson"

Children - Sally Hanson Carney, b. 1888 - d 1963,
George Hanson, b 1891 - d. 1945
William Martin Hanson, b 1895 - d 1972 - my grandfather

Brother(s) - Nels

Sometime after the death of his wife Lena, Andrew left North Dakota and went to the west coast. I have a letter from my grandfather to my mother that indicates this. It is possible that he re-married, but I cannot confirm this.

I also have a letter, written to my grandfather in 1965, from a person who identifies himself as "Uncle Knut" that states Andrew died sometime in the 1930's and a obituary was publised in a Seattle newspapaper. I have identified this person as Knut Dynge from Medford, OR. I have not been able to establish his true relationship with Andrew of my grandfather.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

First. I don't know how much experience you have in Norwegian genealogy or background. The name "Dynge" is probably the farm name back in Norway. Up to the early 1900's (a bit earlier in the cities), there was no surname/last name as we know it. The naming practice was "Patronymics". The first name was a "given" name, just as here. The middle name was the patronymics of the first name of the father, followed by "sen" or "datter". So, if Hans Ivarsen Dynge (Ivarsen was made up) had a son Andrew, he would be Andrew Hansen. If he had a daughter, Lena, she would be Lena Hansdatter, the rest of her lift. So, what was Dynge, since there were probably so may Hans Iversen, Ole Olsen, etc., they had to identify themselves, so they used an "address", the name of the farm on which they resided. So, Dynge was the farm name. If Andrew or Lena moved to the Stenbakken Farm, they would be Andrew Iversen Stenbakken. If Lena married Ole Olsen Nenbraaten, she would be Lena Hansdatter Nedbraaten. The woman never took the husbands name.

-----Patronymics-----
> Here are two of the major sites for learning about Patronymics and farm
> names:
>
> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/index.html The home page:
> ---Go to and click on "My Articles", You will see 12 articles on getting
> started, Naming Practices, farm names, etc.
>
> http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/jborgose.htm This resource is also
> excellent for learning about Norwegian names, farm names, the added Nordic
> Characters-their other vowels in the Norwegian language ø æ å.
>
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wgnorway/index.html Another site with learning
> information.
>
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I belong to a mailing list, the Norway List. We are a group of persons all over the world that help find families that are still in Norway, or have emigrated to points all over the world. It is unlike any other mailing list, as we become family. A good number of us have been there for years. You might give it a try and see what information we can find. I know there are "listers" in the Grand Forks area.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/NorwayList.htm

The 1900 Census for Marsh Grove, Marshall County, Minnesota:
Hans A. Dynge, born "Jun 1838", but could be "Jan" as the census enumerator wrote "June" for others. Born in Norway, emigrated in 1880, a farmer.
Gjertrud, born Sep 1832 in Norway, emigrated in 1881. mother of 6, 5 living
George, grandson, born August 1891 in S. Dakota.

In 1903, both Hans A and Knut H, Dynge obtained farm land through the homestead act in Minnesota. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ If you didn't know about these, or want assistance in finding where the property was located, just ask.

The 1910 Census for Plymouth, Grand Forks County, ND
Knute Dynge, age 34 (1875/1876), born in Norway, immigrated 1886, farmer
Etty, age 33(32?), born in Minnesota to both parents born in the US, mother of 5, 4 living:
Henry, 12, born in MN
Gerald 8, MN
Elsie, 5, ND
Amanda 5/12, ND
Gertrude, 75 (circa 1834/35), born in Norway, immigrated in 1886.

World War I Draft Registration Card images:
Knut Hansen Dynge, born May 20, 1875, alien has declared intent for citizen. A frame bender helper for the North Pacific Ship Building Co. in Seattle. Nearest relative is Henrietta Dynge, both living at 406 7th Ave S., Seattle. He was tall, stout in build, blue eyes and dark brown hair. He registered as required on Sept 12, 1918.

The 1920 Census for Kingston, Kitsap County, Washington
Knute Dynge, age 44, born in Norway, immigrated 1886, laborer at a lumber mill
Henrietta, 41, born in Minnesota.
Elsie 14, ND
Amanda 10, ND
Olga, 5, Washington State
Gertrude, mother age 85 (circa 1834/35), widow, immigrated in 1886 from Norway.
The 1920 Census for Seattle, King County, WA owning at 5446 37th Ave N
Henry H. Dynge, age 22, born in Minnesota, picture letterer in an art store
Vera L. 18, born in Washington

The Social Security Death Index shows Knut Dynge born 20 May 1875, died Sep 1969. His last residence at Shady Cove, Jackson County, Oregon. (The "last residence" is not always where a person died, but where a final benefit is sent, usually the death benefit).
--Gerald Dynge, born 24 Jul 1901, died Oct 1967, last res: Medford, Jackson Co, OR
--Dorothy Dynge, born 18 Apr 1913, died May 1973 in Medford
--Verda Dynge, born 1 Apr 1904, died Feb 1971 in Medford.

The Oregon death Index:
Knute Han Dynge, died 8 Sep 1969
Gerald T, 7 Oct 1967
Dorothy F, 28 May 1973
Verda New, 6 Feb 1971
Henrietta A, 9 Mar 1964.

----------Dynge---------
I went to the Norwegian archives, the Digitalarkivet:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&a...
Then to the 1865 census. I did a search for any gard/farm name of Dynge. I found 8 persons living on a farm with that name. The farm was in the Sigdal parish of Buskerud Fylke (similar but a bit different to our counties). Here is this group:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...
There were an additional 74 persons living on farms where the name began with Dynge.

The DigitalArkivet also has a number of different databases, to include the emigrant database. I found this family emigrating in 1866 from Kristiania:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...
Gjertrud is highlighted, above her is Hans. They were from Skauger, enroute to McCanna, Dakota Territory. They were on the ship "Marstin", departing on 14 May 1886. Andrew/Anders/Andreas is not with them.
The Norway Heritage shows this ship as the "Marsdin", departing on 14 May. http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_route.asp?ro=W28 It was a "feeder ship", one that traveled from Norway to Hull England. The passengers then took transportation, train, wagon, etc. to Liverpool for the transatlantic voyage. This was known as Transmigration: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html
If you click on the little steerage wheel, the next window will show you "possible" ships and routes they could have taken as indicated by the arrow in the first column. I have found this to not be correct for some. Finding the arrival ship is another topic.

Henry Dynge is buried in the Valley View Cemetery, Cottonwood, Yavapai County, Arizona.

--------Andrew Gunder--------
It is more difficult to find him without his birth information. Do you have that? In what year was he married?

The World War I Draft Registration Card images has an Andrew Hansson, born July 4, 1874, naturalized (no country identified). Living in Issaquah, King County. He is married to Margaret Hansson. He was a farmer.

The 1920 Census for Bear Creek, Snohomish Co, WA
Andrew G. Hanson, age 54, born in Norway, immigrated 1885, naturalized 1895, farmer
Matilda, age 49, born in Sweden, immigrated 1891
Alice M, daughter, age 17, born in WA.
Lester F, 16, born in WA
--there is NO proof this person is the one sought.
--The 1930 census for Maltby, Snohomish County, WA
Andrew J (as transcribed, but appears to be a "g" to me), Hanson, age 65, born in Norway, immigrated 1886
Matilda, age 60, born in Sweden, immigrated 1878
--Again, while this appears close, there is NO proof.

There are to many Andrew/Anders Hanson/Hansen/Hansson to positively identify one being the right person without more information. His date of birth is very important. It appears his mother and brother were in the Seattle area for a period of time. So, it appears a good chance he might have been there also.

Have you checked the free Grand Forks genweb site? There are volunteers who will look up items in a Grand Forks County heritage book, (index lists Pauline HANSON), as well as old newspaper obituaries. Obits for Andrew's parents might reveal where he lived in the 1910s and 1920s.

Here is a link to the volunteer lookup page:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndgrandf/look_ups.htm

Hello,

I am still searching for my great grandfather and was wondering if you could direct me to the source of the document you mentioned?

"The 1900 Census for Marsh Grove, Marshall County, Minnesota:
Hans A. Dynge, born "Jun 1838", but could be "Jan" as the census enumerator wrote "June" for others. Born in Norway, emigrated in 1880, a farmer.
Gjertrud, born Sep 1832 in Norway, emigrated in 1881. mother of 6, 5 living
George, grandson, born August 1891 in S. Dakota"

I am curious about the notation attached to Gjertrud. I have an image of the 1900 Federal Census for Marsh Grove but this notation is not on that document.

Thanks for you hekp.

You are correct, she was mother of 7, 7 living.

Sorry to bother you again, but is the "mother of 7, 7 living" notated on the census? Is this the 1900 Federal census? Thanks.

I was going to email you a copy of the image; but, first you don't have your email available, second, you said you have a copy of the image.

If you look at line 28, it shows Gjertrud, then wife, then "F" for female, then "Sep" for month of birth, then "1832" for year of birth, then "58" for age, then "M" for married, then "43" for years married, then "7" for mother of, then "7" for number living.