I believe John Dowden came out from Dublin as a convict in the early 1800's could anyone steer me in the right direction as to What ship, when & why
Kind regards Pam

The 1828 census shows:

John Dowden arrived 1815 on "Canada" was sentenced to 14 years in 1813.
In 1828 he was a free settler aged 47 a catholic and was working as a fencer for Mr. Cordeaux at Wingercarribee.

Unfortunatly the database which shows where he was convicted is not working for me.

Chris

Chris this is absolutely wonderful I can't thank you enough
What is this 1828 census you you mentioned?
& how & where, can I access this database?

I don't know anything abt researching in Australia
Again many thanks, Pam

The 1828 NSW census can be searched online on the ANCESTRY site it gives some info about each citizen. If you want to know more about a convict the "convict indents" give all the details eg crime,place and time of trial, sentence, physical description, ship transported on, etc. The indents are on microfiche at most large council libraries in NSW. Are you in Australia? if not I will look up John DOWDEN at my local library next time I'm there.

Chris

Hi Pam,

Here is a bit more info on John DOWDEN sometimes spelt DOWDAN.

He was convicted in DUBLIN in 1813. The CANADA sailed from CORK on 5th Dec 1814 and arrived SYDNEY 5th Aug 1815. There were 160 male Irish convicts on board and 4 died on the voyage. The ship's captain was J. Grigg and the surgeon was R. Browne.

Chris

I am in Oz Chris but live 2 hrs away from the nearest library, so I would love you to look if possible if its not too much trouble

Oh wow this is really fantastic Chris, gosh didn't the trip take a long time!
Thankyou again

Yes that was a long trip it was usually 6 months depending on how many stops they made. Those details are from websites I will look at the indents at Hurstville library in the next week or so and post the details listed there.

Chris

Have found JD's indent but it has only a little more than you already have. Those from the mid-1820s onwards have more personal detail.

PSC Bound indents 1814-1818, 4/4005, p.72, AONSW Fiche 635
Convict per "Canada"(2), dep. Cork 07.12.1814, arr. Sydney 05.08.1815
John DOWDAN / trial: Dublin, Dec. 1813 / sentence: transportation for 14 years / TOL 1342
Annotation: [COF] 27/1112

Col. Sec. Petitions 1818, 4/1854, AONSW Fiche 3184
Petition of John DOWDEN seeking a ticket of leave, dated 29.08.1818
Assigned to Michael DOWDALL, a settler, at Kissing Point, since arrival in NSW.

General muster list of NSW 1823,1824,1825, p.158
19050 / John DOWDAN / TL / per "Canada", 1815 / employed by John ATKINSON / at Argyle

Col. Sec. Special bundles Tickets of leave ... Affidavits attesting to loss of tickets 1824, 4/1716.1, p.182, AONSW Film 6027
Affidavit of John DOWDEN, dated 16.09.1824
TOL obtained in 1818 or 1819; lost about 7 months ago; got drunk at Christmas 1823 while fencing for Captain PIPER & while lodging at the Captain's farm; when he was sober noticed his TOL was missing.

Index to tickets of leave issued in ... NSW 1810-1824, p.206
John DOWDEN / per "Canada, 1815 / TOL 24/408 / archives location 4/4060 / AONSW Film 890

Hi Pam

The info from John DOWDEN's indent has been posted by car6m2ody. There probably isn't much more you can find out about him except searching NSW BDM for marriage, death etc.

Chris