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Re: TOSHACK Family

craiders18 — 2013-05-24 02:39:47Z

Thanks Mary. That's my husbands grandmother and of course grand father. I had come across this before but would you have any idea at all what this would be?

Sorry I'm very new to it all

Re: TOSHACK Family

nicholls29 — 2013-05-24 02:32:43Z

Hi craiders,

I looked on NSW State Records Archives Investigator simple search, to see if Anthony had a probate packet, but only this record, below, for him:

800/1958 Item Divorce papers Cavell Mary Aiken - Anthony Ross Aiken 06 Mar 1958 ~ 16 Jan 1959

Mary

Re: TOSHACK Family

craiders18 — 2013-05-24 02:17:55Z

It does have that "Anthony Ross aiken" was born in orange and going by his age at time of death he would have been born in 1931

Re: TOSHACK Family

craiders18 — 2013-05-24 02:16:59Z

I Have a copy of "Anthony Ross Aiken" death certificate as he died in 1959 and I cant yet access his birth certificate.

It has "Vera Margaret Toshack" and "Henry Picken" as his parents.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH interesting!

Re: TOSHACK Family

nicholls29 — 2013-05-24 02:04:27Z

Hi craiders,

Just wondering where this info came from, regarding Anthony Ross AIKEN?

"... all we know of Anthony's father is his name "Henry Picken.""

Do you have Anthony's birth certificate, or marriage certificate, which shows the name PICKEN, or is it a family story?

I saw this death, and wondered if it was Anthony's mother (Vera) in 1931....

4666/1931 PICKEN VERA A M ROBERT J ELIZABETH ORANGE

Mary

Re: TOSHACK Family

craiders18 — 2013-05-24 01:52:29Z

Any ideas which relatives brought up the orphaned children?

Vera Margaret b 1910, Ernest Raymond Herbert (1914-2003), joseph Owen (1918-1982)?

Re: TOSHACK Family

nicholls29 — 2013-05-24 00:36:32Z

Hi,

Just a bit more to add to Veronica's info.

The divorce of Elizabeth AIKEN and Thomas W HANDLEY in 1909, from State Records:

Divorce Number: 6767

Year: 1909

HANLEY

Elizabeth

HANLEY

Thomas William

Sydney Morning Herald, Friday, 3 December, 1909:

"HANLEY v HANLEY.
Elizabeth Hanley, formerly Aiken, petitioned for divorce from her husband, Thos. William Hanley, a miner, on the ground of desertion. Mr. Rogers (Messrs. Pile and Rogers, Carcoar) appeared for petitioner. The parties were married in March, 1898, at Carcoar, according to the rites of the Church of England. After two weeks the husband, a miner, according to petitioner's evidence, went prospecting, and never returned to her. She last heard from him at Broken Hill. A decree nisi, returnable in six months, was granted."

Birth of a child in 1898:

29657/1898 HANLEY HILDA E THOMAS W ELIZABETH A CARCOAR
Mary

Re: TOSHACK Family

dubbo1959 — 2013-05-24 00:20:54Z

John Aiken actually married Elizabeth HOAD not Hood.

Re: TOSHACK Family

vbutler144 — 2013-05-23 20:39:38Z

Vera Margaret Toshack's parents were Joseph Toshack & Elizabeth Aiken.
Her parents were John Walter Aiken & Elizabeth Hood.
Elizabeth married Thomas W Hanley in 1898 & had Vera.
She married Joseph Toshack 1910
Children Vera Margaret b 1910, John Robert J (1911-13), Ernest Raymond Herbert (!914-2003), joseph Owen (1918-1982)
Joseph died 1920 & Elizabeth 1921. The children were bought up by relatives.
Ernie Toshack is the cricketer
Veronica

Re: TOSHACK Family

dj72green — 2013-05-23 14:08:48Z

I am not related. There are three index entries for the birth of Vera Margaret:

13444/1910
AIKEN, VERA M
Parents: Father not named & ELIZABETH
Registered at CARCOAR

13444/1910
HANLEY, VERA M
Parents: Father not named & ELIZABETH
Registered at CARCOAR

13444/1910
TOSHACK, VERA M
Parents: JOSEPH & ELIZABETH
Registered at CARCOAR

I am confident that this birth certificate will show that Elizabeth was unmarried at the time of Vera's birth, was using the name HANLEY (nee AIKEN), but Joseph TOSHACK has been present at the registration and agreed to have his name recorded as the father.

Amy and Doris are both indexed as HANLEY and AIKEN which indicates that HANLEY was not the father, and Amy is also indexed a third time as FIELD.

Vera does not appear to have married, there is no marriage registration under either AIKEN or TOSHACK, so technically her son's name would be AIKEN.

Oh what a tangled web!!

Debra

Re: TOSHACK Family

craiders18 — 2013-05-23 06:53:19Z

Hi there,

I have just started looking into my family history. My grandfather "Anthony Ross Aiken" born in orange about 1930. Son of "Vera Margaret Toshack" born in 1910.

We have been trying to workout where the "Aiken" comes from as all we know of Anthony's father is his name "Henry Picken"

Re: William McLean//b. @ 1911 +/-3yrs//Gunbar NSW area

nicholls29 — 2013-05-22 22:06:05Z

Hi Rebecca,

Is this his birth record in NSW in 1909, along with some of his siblings?

3614/1899 MCLEAN SARAH J DONALD EMILY J HAY
3875/1901 MCLEAN CATHERINE F DONALD EMILY J HAY
21618/1903 MCLEAN JESSIE C DONALD EMILY J HAY
32463/1906 MCLEAN DONALD A DONALD EMILY J BERRIGAN
12172/1909 MCLEAN WILLIAM H DONALD EMILY J BERRIGAN
28686/1911 MCLEAN EDWARD L DONALD EMILY J HAY

Mary

Re: Death//William C Dickens//born 1906 Mossgiel NSW

nicholls29 — 2013-05-22 21:59:23Z

Hi Rebecca,

Do you have his mothers' death certificate in Victoria?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Jemina Hannah Dickens
Name: Jemina Hannah Dickens
Death Place: Brunswick, Victoria
Age: 78
Father's Name: James Oscroft
Mother's Name: Margaret Bastian
Registration Year: 1964
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 6644
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886

Does her death certificate state the names of her children and if they are alive?

He may well have died after 1985, and therefore, out of the searchable range.

Mary

William McLean//b. @ 1911 +/-3yrs//Gunbar NSW area

rebeccaoconnell1 — 2013-05-22 17:34:52Z

Searching for birth and death records for William Mclean son of Donald Mclean and Emily Jane (nee Brooker) Mclean.

Death//William C Dickens//born 1906 Mossgiel NSW

rebeccaoconnell1 — 2013-05-22 17:28:38Z

Hello, Searching for a death record or obituary for William C Dickens b. 1906 son of William McKellar Dickens and Jemima Hannah Oscroft Dickens.

Re: Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

genknut1 — 2013-05-22 12:38:28Z

?? dead end ?? Well up to you but Monice Elaine WEBB had 4 sisters , therefore Valerie Rae had at least 4 aunties. Surely someone in this family would remember who went where ?

Liocadia WEBB m an Edw NETHERY 1943, Ryde
Shouldnt be that hard to find their descendants ?

Her grandfather Cecil Craven WEBB d 29 Sep 1954 ...... cremated Nth Suburbs Is a death notice in the SHM 1 Oct
Cecil left a will # 430512 , so should be a probate packet and deceased estate file out at NSW State Records, Kingswood

Bye

MargM

Re: Julian Burns

dj72green — 2013-05-22 07:03:00Z

I assume that Patrick and Honora are the couple who arrived on the Roxburgh Castle in 1839. His parents are named as Patrick BROWNE and Julian BURNS (which possibly should be 'Julia').

Honora's parents are Daniel DWYER and Moll? RYAN, so her maiden surname should have been DWYER, not SULLIVAN?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11589-165803-44...

Hopefully someone who has researched the family will see your post, but if Patrick's parents didn't come to Australia then you won't find anything about them here and will be better off posting on the board for Tipperary.

Debra

Re: Russell family

nicholls29 — 2013-05-22 05:20:38Z

Hi jswann,

Looks like the parents of the couple who married in 1936 (Dorothy RUSSELL and Walter Samuel PARKINS), were fighting in 1914, when Dorothy was a baby.

The Tamworth Daily Observer , Friday 13 November 1914:

William Russell, (40) appeared at the Tamworth police court yesterday before Mr. H. P. Roberts, P.M., to answer a charge of havlng on November 6, stolen two sheets, two quilts, and one blanket of the value of 15/ the property of Samuel Parkins. Mr R. J. O'Halloran appeared for the accused. Constable Bell deposed that about 4 p.m. on the 6th instant he saw the accused lying isleep in the yard of the Great Northern Hotel. Witness took him to Parkins' Hotel, and confronted him with Mr. Parkins. At the lockup he showed accused the two sheets' and counterpane produced. Witness .....

OR, is this the other William RUSSELL who was in trouble a lot, at Tamworth?

Mary

Re: Henry Davis/Hards

m820 — 2013-05-22 04:17:27Z

Yes the birth record you found for 01 April 1840 is the one that I think belongs to Henry Davis (born Hards). Do you have any ideas on how I would go about linking that birth record to my Henry Davis?

Re: Russell family

nicholls29 — 2013-05-22 04:03:11Z

Hi Brianna,

Looking at the information supplied by jswann, their Dorothy RUSSELL was born in 1913, (Tamworth district) and your Dorothy, Rita and Cedric RUSSELL were born about 1930, in the Cowra district. So two different Dorothy's, I think.

Mary

Re: Henry Davis/Hards

RhondaEmbee — 2013-05-22 02:47:59Z

Hi

In the NSW Index . . . .
A birth record for a Henry HARD in 1843 had parents named John and Benedicta. (This may have come from a baptism record?) No marriage record for a John and Benedicta.

The only “HARDS” couple in early records were Thomas and Ann.

Searching for more about the above mentioned couples may give a clue?

Looking at marriages.....don't know if this is the same John as above?
A John HARD married in 1838 to Mary BROWNE in the district of Gundaroo, Gunning, Yass.
TROVE has a report of the death of John HARD in 1845.
And in 1845 in the same district a Mary HARD married Randal HEYDON

Rhonda

Re: Julian Burns

nicholls29 — 2013-05-22 02:42:12Z

Hi Pat,

Is this your family?

Marriage in 1888:

3270/1888 DORAN ALFRED J BROWN MARY REDFERN

SMH, Tuesday, 30 August 1910:
BROWN. - In sad but loving memory of our dear father, Patrick Brown, who died at Cook’s River, August 30, 1892; also our dear mother Honora Brown, who died at Lansdown-street, Surry Hills, July 17, 1908. R.I P. ................
Inserted by their loving daughter and son in-law, Mary and Alfred Doran; also grandchildren, Alf., Lily, Alma, and Reggie.

Death registrations.

12450/1892 BROWN PATRICK WILLIAM BRIDGET ST PETERS

8110/1908 BROWN HANORA 7O YRS SYDNEY SYDNEY

The parent’s names for Patrick, however, do not match.

SMH, Wednesday 31 August 1892:

THE FRIENDS of the late Mr. PATRICK BROWN are respectfully requested to attend his Funeral ; to move from Fanning-street, St. Peters, on THURSDAY AFTERNOON, at 1 o'clock, to Necropolis. W. J. DIXON, Undertaker, 183 George-street; 120 Oxford-street.

Interred in this burial site :
Surname Given Name Service Date Age Location
Brown Patrick 01 Sep 1892 60 SEC*M1*G**457
Brown Honora 18 Jul 1908 70 SEC*M1*G**457

Death of the daughter Mary (Mrs DORAN).

SMH, Monday 21 October 1946:

DORAN -October 20 1946 at her residence 5 View Street Earlwood, Mary Doran, relict of the late Alfred John Doran and loved mother of Alfred, Lillian, Alma, and Reginald, aged 79 years. Requiescat in Pace.

FUNERALS
DORAN-The Relatives and Friends of Mr Alfred Doran and Jack, Mr and Ms H Woottan, Mr and Mrs R J O'Brien and their Families and Mr Reginald Doran are invited to attend the Funeral of their loved Mother, Mother-in-law, and Grandmother, Mary Doran; to leave Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Earlwood, This Afternoon at 1 13 o clock for the Catholic Cemetery Rookwood Requiem Mass will be celebrated THIS Morning at 7 o clock Walters and Son Dulwich.

DORAN -The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs E Bird, Mr and Mrs E Connelly, and their Families, and Miss L Brown, Mr Frank Behan, are invited to attend the Funeral of their loved Sister and Aunt, Mary Doran. For details see family notice. Walters and Son.

24829/1946 DORAN MARY PATRICK HONORA CANTERBURY

Interred in this burial site :
Surname Given Name Service Date Age Location
Doran Alfred J 03 Apr 1926 59 SEC*M2*7**5
Doran Mary 21 Oct 1946 79 SEC*M2*7**5

Mary

Re: Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

syljun — 2013-05-21 18:11:22Z

Thanks MargM, Thought I would chance asking. Looks as if this line has come to a dead end. Not to worry, more curious than anything. So many of mine have disappeared so nowhere for me to go. Father may have changed his name, perhaps to get out of paying maintenance. No amount of enquiries of whereabouts at his Divorce could find out where he was.Thanks, Syljun

Re: Russell family

brianna_russell02 — 2013-05-21 09:57:49Z

Hi, my grandfather's younger sister's name is Dot (Dorothy) and another sister named Rita. He had one other sister but I can't remember her name. Also, his middle name is Walter; Cederic Walter Russell.He lives in NSW. Thought this might help? Our family motto is 'che sara sara'.

Re: Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

genknut1 — 2013-05-21 08:01:20Z

Indexes to NSW marriages only public to 1962. No Valerie Rae getting married.

This HARDING family are in Ancestrys Public Trees twice...
Maybe he returned to England after they divorced ?

Bye

MargM

Re: Julian Burns

genknut1 — 2013-05-21 07:23:13Z

Just checking ....... Do you mean Julia ? I guess Julian can be female ?

All are quite common surnames too........ Where in NSW and when would help.

Bye

MargM

Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

syljun — 2013-05-21 06:30:27Z

Anyone with info. or connection to above. Daughter of Laurence Harry Harding and Monica Elaine Webb. Info. required purely for Family Tree. Many thanks Syljun

Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

syljun — 2013-05-21 06:30:05Z

Anyone with info. or connection to above. Daughter of Laurence Harry Harding and Monica Elaine Webb. Info. required purely for Family Tree. Many thanks Syljun

Re: Julian Burns

Sad_Mushroom — 2013-05-21 06:29:53Z

Hi Pat,
What time frames are you talking about?
Which people came to NSW Australia?

Kellie

Valerie Rae Harding - b. 1938 Cremone. NSW

syljun — 2013-05-21 06:29:52Z

Anyone with info. or connection to above. Daughter of Laurence Harry Harding and Monica Elaine Webb. Info. required purely for Family Tree. Many thanks Syljun

Julian Burns

patriciakalachoff91 — 2013-05-21 05:06:44Z

Hi i am looking for any information on a Julian Burns married a Patrick Browne,there son was Patrick browne married Honour Sullivan . They come from Irealand.
Kind Regards pat.

Re: Dubbo Moore Families

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 22:23:41Z

Hi Ngaire,

SMH, Friday 1 Feb, 1929:

FUNERALS
MAHONY-The Funeral of the late Mrs. HARRIETT MAHONY will leave F. Dangar's Funeral Parlours, THIS MORNING, at 9 o'clock, for Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood, via Mortuary Station. Funeral Train leaves at 9.30 o'clock.

Rookwood Catholic Cemetery.
Mahoney Harriett 74 01/02/1929 SEC*M2*9**3765 B

127/1929 MAHONY HARRIETT 74 YRS SYDNEY SYDNEY

Do you have Richard MOORE's death certificate?

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 21:25:41Z

Hi,

On austcemindex website a photo of the grave of Sampson TEECE. He is buried with a daughter named Rose, from what I can see on his headstone.

Inscription for Sampson Teece

Cemetery: Aberdare General

Family Name: Teece
Given Names: Sampson
Birth Date:
Death Date: 13 Jun 1932
Age: 82y
Remarks: h/Eliza; father
Portion: Sal

Death registration of his daughter in 1932:

6694/1932 GOSS ROSANNAH SAMPSON ELIZA CESSNOCK

Also a photo of the headstone of Arthur TEECE who died on 4 July, 1940.

Series 4-278013 Item Arthur Teece - Date of Death 04/07/1940, Granted On 15/04/1943

The son of Arthur, below, (Alfred TEECE) is also buried with Arthur TEECE. Alfred TEECE died a few weeks before Arthur TEECE.

7128/1940 TEECE ALFRED WILLIAM ARTHUR ALICE KURRI KURRI

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

cluncastle — 2013-05-20 18:35:27Z

Hi,
Thank you for the wealth of information and so quickly, I thought my inquiry might have been a long shot. Yes , as you
see Lily's parents were Sampson and Eliza. Hadn't found a death for Eliza as well as for Lily, and didn't know about the extra children, so I can now fill in the missing gaps in this branch of my tree and add, as well, all the extra information that you have supplied. Many thanks again.
Regards
Richard

Re: Dubbo Moore Families

JillyLimb — 2013-05-20 14:06:53Z

to Ngaire 756
Hi, Do I have the right person re information of Friedrich Johann Christian Gerhard born C 1818? If so, he was my gg grandfather and I am seeking information. I am not a member of Ancestry but can be contacted at jillybean9@bigpond.com. Thank you. Jilly.

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 05:52:20Z

Hi,

Tasmania, 1936 and 1937, Wilmot, Fingal Electoral Roll:

PECK Frederick Clarence, St. Marys, fisherman
PECK Nora Ann, St. Marys, home duties

Examiner, Launceston, Tas, Monday 21 August 1939:
“Deaths
PECK. - On August 19, at the Public Hospital, Launceston, Nora Ann, dearly loved wife of Frederick C. Peck, of 11 Hampden-street, Launceston, and loving mother of Stella, Pearl, and Rex, in her 54th year. (Private interment, Carr Villa Cemetery, this day (Monday), 4 o'clock. Armitage & Armitage, Funeral Directors, Launceston.)

Examiner, Launceston, Tas, Monday 19 August 1940:
“In Memoriam
PECK-In loving memory of our dear wife and mother, Nora Ann, who passed away August 19, 1939. The evening stars shine on a grave Of one we loved but could not save, From earthly pain to heavenly rest, Missed by those who loved her best. -Inserted by her loving husband and family.

PECK-In loving memory of our darling mother, Nora Ann Peck, who passed away August 19, 1939. There is no love like a mother's, We may seek for it in vain, Though we may be loved by others, Love like her's never comes again. -Inserted by her loving son Rex, daughter-in-law Elvie, and grand daughter Shirley.”

Carr Villa Memorial Park, website:

Record Details
Given Names: NORA ANN
Surname: PECK
Age: 53
Date of Death: 19/8/1939
Date of Service: 21/8/1939
Area: Monumental Cemetery
Location: B8
Number: 16.00

Record Details
Given Names: FREDERICK CLARENCE
Surname: PECK
Age: 81
Date of Death: 17/4/1965
Date of Service: 20/4/1965
Area: Cremation
Location: WESTERN WALL
Number: 232.00
Site: C

Record Details
Given Names: CYRIL REX CLARENCE
Surname: PECK
Age: 39
Date of Death: 10/9/1954
Date of Service: 14/9/1954
Area: Cremation
Location: ROSE GARDEN B
Number: 22.00
Site: B4

Service Record
Name: PECK, CYRIL REX CLARENCE
Service: Australian Army
Service Number: T26868
Date of Birth: 15 Jan 1915
Place of Birth: BEACONSFIELD, TAS
Date of Enlistment: 5 May 1942
Locality on Enlistment: BICHENO, TAS
Place of Enlistment: BICHENO, TAS
Next of Kin: PECK, ELVIE
Date of Discharge: Unknown
Rank: Unknown
Posting at Discharge: Unknown
WW2 Honours and Gallantry: None for display
Prisoner of War: No

Death of the mother of, Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters, in Tas, in May, 1922 (Eliza WHITEHOUSE):

Record Details
Given Names: ELIZA
Surname: TEECE
Age: 73
Date of Death: 28/5/1922
Date of Service: 30/5/1922
Area: Monumental Cemetery
Location: B8
Number: 16.00
Site:

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 05:47:42Z

Hi,

There is mention of a child born to Frederick TEECE, in Tasmania, prior to 1908.

Examiner, Launceston, Saturday, 11 January, 1908:

"Brought Back. - By the s. Wakatipu last evening Constable Driscoll returned, having in custody Frederick Teece, who was arrested in Sydney on a warrant from this state, charging him with child desertion. Teece, who hails from the Patersonia district, is on bail, and will appear at the Launceston Police Court in a few days to answer the charge."

Mary

Re: Walter Jack Ferguson aka Walter John Wray Born 1910

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 05:10:14Z

Hi Jennifer,

I gather that you have the 1910 birth certificate for Walter, as you state Florence was 22 yo, when she gave birth. Unless, the family can help with who his father is, you are not going to find out, if it is not recorded on his birth certificate.

Is your grandfather, that you refer to, the partner of Florence in 1909?

From austcemindex.com website, a photo of Florence's headstone:

Inscription for Florence Marion Wray
Cemetery: East Maitland General
Family Name: Wray
Given Names: Florence Marion
Birth Date:
Death Date: 27 Jun 1971
Age: 84y
Remarks: née Fergusson; w/Frederick
Portion: Pbn
Row: 23

I cannot locate a matching death on BDM's, for Florence. There is one in 1971, for Florence Marion BYRNE, but she apparently died on 09.08.1971.

From Archives Investigator, simple search, website:
Florence Marion Byrne - Date of Death 09/08/1971, Granted on 28/10/1971.

Frederick WRAY
Regimental number 5663
Religion Church of England
Occupation Stock and station agent
Address Bunarba, New South Wales
Marital status Married
Age at embarkation 38
Next of kin Wife, Mrs Florence Marion Wray, Braeside, East Maitland, New South Wales
Enlistment date 1 March 1916
Date of enlistment from Nominal Roll 25 February 1916
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 17th Battalion, 15th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/34/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A14 Euripides on 9 September 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 17th Battalion
Fate Died of wounds 27 February 1917
Other details War service: Western Front
Medals: British War Medal, Victory Medal

He was Killed in Action on 27.02.1917 (not 1916).

Mary

Re: Walter Jack Ferguson aka Walter John Wray Born 1910

jd_smith01 — 2013-05-20 05:05:05Z

Hello Mary I have just discovered a Frederick Wray, Miner and Florence Wray, Home Duties on the 1910 Kalgoorlie Electoral Roll. They lived at 5 Porter Street, Kalgoorlie. The voting was done in May 1910 from what I can gather. Interesting to see what I come up with. Thanks Jennifer

Re: Walter Jack Ferguson aka Walter John Wray Born 1910

jd_smith01 — 2013-05-20 05:02:30Z

Hi Kellie Florence Ferguson Wray was my Grandmother and lived with me in Elwood, Victoria before she passed away in a nursing home just up the road.
I did not know about Dad's (Walter John Wray) birth cert until 3 weeks ago. I had Frederick Wray's WW1 service records but 1 page was missing. Form Z3 (Pension application) where Dad was named Walter Jack, Stepson to Frederick.
This has been bothering me for a few years as I saw the page on the AWM site by accident. After visiting Fredericks grave in Martinpuich, France last Oct I thought I would find out. Regret it now of course, so am now on a mission to find Dad's Father, who may of course be Frederick but they didnt marry until 1915. Thanks for replying. Jennifer

Henry Davis/Hards

m820 — 2013-05-20 03:43:37Z

I am after further information in regards to Henty Hards/Davis, my great great grandfather. As you will see in an earlier thread Henry Davis's death certificate was found after much work. However it had no information on it in regards to his parents. He died in Lidcome State Hospital and after seeking and going through the process of being granted permission to access his health records I found there were none. I am trying to determine his DOB so I can then search for his parents. I have also applied to NSW BDM to do a search for me but it appears that there in no information. I think part of the reason for this is because he may have been born Henry Hards and later it was changed to Henry Davis. There is a birth certificate for Henry Hards born 01 April 1840. This age fits with his death certificate. He died Dec 1934 at the age of 94 but there is no DOB on the Death Certificate. What other options are open to me to positively confirm my Henry Davis DOB and if he was born Henry Hards? Appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-20 03:41:10Z

Hi,

Examiner, Launceston, Tas, Saturday 26 August 1916:

“...The accused was alleged to have stolen from an elderly farmer named Samson Teece, residing at St. Patrick’s River, a morocco cigar case, a pencil case, stamps, etc., of the value of about £1, and ...
Teece struck accused over the shoulder with his stick, and was thereupon violently pushed to the ground, injuring his wrist in the fall. The accused, with the cigar case, made off, leaving his hat lying where it had fallen in the struggle. ... “

Tasmania, 1919, Bass, St. Leonards, Electoral Roll:
TEECE Eliza, St. Patrick’s River, domestic duties
TEECE Sampson, St. Patrick’s River, farmer

Tasmania, 1922, Bass, Launceston Central, Electoral Roll:
TEECE Alfred John, 204 Charles St., carter
TEECE Sampson, 204 Charles St., pensioner

Advocate, Burnie, Tas, Saturday 29 November 1919:
“"ROBUR" TEA.
Below are the names of those competitors who were successful in the Robur Tea Ticket Collecting Competition for the month of October,
1919:—
... Mrs. S. Teece, St. Patrick's River. ... “

I noticed, that the following four births, to Sampson and Eliza TEECE, are missing from your family tree:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Nora Ann Teece
Name: Nora Ann Teece
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1885
Father's Name: Sampson Teece
Mother's Name: Eliza Whitehouse
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Registration number: 2832

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Frederick Teece
Name: Frederick Teece
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1886
Father's Name: Sampson Teece
Mother's Name: Eliza Whitehouse
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Port Sorell, Tasmania
Registration number: 2640

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Eliza May Teece
Name: Eliza May Teece
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1887
Father's Name: Sampson Teece
Mother's Name: Eliza Whitehouse
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania
Registration number: 1608

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Alfred John Teece
Name: Alfred John Teece
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1893
Father's Name: Sampson Teece
Mother's Name: Eliza Whitehouse
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania
Registration number: 810

Marriage of Nora TEECE in Tasmania, in 1912:

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Nora Ann Teece
Name: Nora Ann Teece
Spouse Name: Frederick Clarence Perck
Marriage Place: Tasmania
Registration Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1912
Page Number: 30803

Deaths of Alfred John TEECE, and Frederick TEECE, in NSW:

30519/1960 TEECE ALFRED JOHN SAMUEL 67 YEARS MORISSET WYONG

82138/1973 TEECE FREDERICK SAMPSON ELIZA NEWCASTLE

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-19 21:31:05Z

Hi,

From your family tree, I can see that her parents names match.

From NSW State Records Archives Investigator, these deceased estate records:

Series 4-268866 Item Horace Harry Peters - Date of Death 05/02/1942, Granted On 18/06/1942

Series 4-293347 Item Athol Ernest Fred Peters - Date of Death 10/06/1944, Granted on 10/08/1944

Series 4-544453 Item Lily Hypatia Peters - Date of Death 05/11/1961, Granted on 10/08/1962

From Trove newspapers website.

Launceston Examiner, Wednesday 10 December 1884:

"BOARD OF IMMIGRATION. The following immigrants are now en routes per s.s. Kildare, which sailed from Plymouth on 24th October, and is daily expected to arrive at Hobart: IMMIGRANTS.

For Launceston
......
Sampson Teece, miner, wife and four children."

A few mentions in the newspapers of Sampson TEECE in Tasmania.

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-19 20:38:54Z

Hi,

Death of her husband:

28347/1942 PETERS ERNEST ROBERT JAMES (Father) JOHN (Mather) CAROLINE (District) NEWCASTLE

Mary

Re: Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

nicholls29 — 2013-05-19 20:34:07Z

Hi,

Do you know her parents names?

This could well be her death in 1961, at Hamilton, near Newcastle:

36287/1961 PETERS LILY HYPATIA (Father) SAMPSON (Mother) ELIZA (District) HAMILTON

Mary

Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters

cluncastle — 2013-05-19 14:53:35Z

Looking for information about Lily Hypatia Teece/Peters. Born Yorkshire, England 1877, the family arrived Hobart, Tasmania 1884. She married a Ernest Robert James Peters 1899 in Tasmania. The Australian Electoral Rolls has her family living at The Colliery/Commercial Inn Hotel, Wallsend, Hunter, N.S.W. from 1930 to 1937. From 1943 the Electoral Rolls has them living at Emstan? Court, Hamilton, Newcastle, N.S.W. The last record of her is at the same address in 1958 aged 81. Am unable to find any record of her death. Can anyone help?

Re: SALMON

nicholls29 — 2013-05-19 08:38:36Z

Hi,

Maybe, Tammy is related to someone from this marriage in 1909.

10955/1909 SALMON CLAUDE L married BANISTER MARTHA E District: CLARENCE TOWN

You are related to Claude SALMON's younger sister Alice SALMON.

Her marriage below in 1919.

13457/1919 HAMILTON ARTHUR J SALMON ALICE A MORPETH

Mary

Re: SALMON

jilldean138 — 2013-05-19 06:44:54Z

Mary thankyou for your reply.
I have confirmed the information with my mother Gloria.
She was very interested in the family history.
She has a lot of stories to tell.
my aunt Rita has passed away.
Who is Tammy related to.
Regards
Jillian

Re: SALMON

nicholls29 — 2013-05-19 02:19:01Z

Hi Jillian,

You would most likely be related to Tammy. Tania, was just helping with the research.

Birth, Marriage and Death, of your Alice:

20395/1898 SALMON ALICE A WILLIAM MARY J CLARENCE TOWN

13457/1919 HAMILTON ARTHUR J SALMON ALICE A MORPETH

20146/1976 HAMILTON ALICE ANN WILLIAM MARY JANE

SMH 16 August, 1976.
DEATHS
HAMILTON, Alice Ann. – August 15, 1976, at hospital, late of Lidcombe, dearly beloved wife of Arthur (deceased), loved mother of Rita and Gloria, loved mother-in-law, grandmother and great-grandmother of their families, aged 78 years. Now at rest. Rookwood Crematorium.

Now to Alice Ann SALMON’s mother Mary Jane LAMBLEY.

Her migration to Australia, when she was 1 year old, with her parents Henry and Ann LAMBLEY.

LAMBLEY Anne 25 Alfred 1860 Sydney and family Reel 2139, [4/4796]

LAMBLEY Henry 27 Alfred 1860 Sydney and family Reel 2139, [4/4796]

LAMBLEY Mary Jane 1 Alfred 1860 Sydney and family Reel 2139, [4/4796]

Mary Jane LAMBLEY, Native Place and County: Warwickshire. Her mother Anne LAMBLEY was also from Warwick, and her father Henry LAMBLEY was from Oxfordshire.

Her marriage in 1887 and her death on 18 June, 1915:

4637/1887 SALMEN WILLIAM LAMLEY MARY J CLARENCE TOWN

5152/1915 SALMON MARY J HENRY ANNE MORPETH

Henry Lambley
Australia, Cemetery Inscriptions, Sydney Branch Genealogical Library, 1800-1960 burial: 26 Jan 1900 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia;Clarence Town
• spouse: Ann LAMBLEY

Tammy has a lovely headstone of Alice SALMON's mother on her Ancestry family tree.

Mary

Re: Eliza Roberts - from biloela industrial school

AlanaLeeBourke — 2013-05-18 22:11:43Z

thank you so much everyone! it's so fantastic that you are so willing to support another researcher... I'm so excited to see where all the leads you have given take me :) have great days!