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Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

ElizabethSawatzky — 2010-08-28 20:38:57Z

Walter Kaye was my uncle. He was my mother's brother. Mother's name was Stephanie Sawatzky. Perhaps my recollection of Grandpa Victor, which I posted on this message board,might shed some light on your information about our family. I am curious about your relationship to Walter. I know that his first wife was Lois Sorenson, and her mother's name was Edith Sorenson. If you want to correspond with me privately, my e-mail is EATSawatzky@yahoo.com.

Re: Victor Kwiecienski

ElizabethSawatzky — 2010-08-28 20:27:16Z

just to add the reason given for his assuming the name Kwiecien. Since this means April in Polish, he told his family that he chose that name because he arrived in this country inthe month of April. The friend who smugled him aboard ship lived somewhere in NorthEast Minneapolis. Hopefully some of his family heard this story from him and
can throw light on my Grandfather's identity.

Victor Kwiecienski

ElizabethSawatzky — 2010-08-21 20:40:24Z

I am reading with interest the search for Victor. He was my grandfather. My mother, Stephanie (Stella), was born in 1898 to Victor and Terezia. She used to tell me about Grandpa Victor. According to her, Kwiecienski wasnot his real name. He was born in Georgia, Russia, and as a young man was arrested for his part in a plot against the Czar and sentenced to exile in Siberia. In escaping from Siberia, he killed a guard - which haunted him for the rest of his life. A friend smuggled him aboard a ship headed for America. He may have landed on either the East Coast or possibly a Great Lakes port. There was probably no official record of this. According to my mother, he took the nanme of Kwiecienski. Noone, possibly even my grandmother knew his real name.He eventually settled in NE Mpls. married my Grandmother in 1895, and became a tailor. He often hinted at a link with nobility - telling his children,"If you knew who I am, you would come to me on your knees." He always believed that the Russian authorities were still looking for him, becoming agitated whenever a stranger came to the door. After a house fire in which he burned his hands, he became despondent and finally drowned himself in the bathtub. My sister was just a little girl, but she remembers that everyone was pounding on the bathroom door - so that he woulod stop. I grew up believing this picture of my grandfather and I have no reason to disbelieve one of his children.

Re:Krviecin, Kwiecin

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-02-10 00:16:22Z

Ms.

Long time since your post. Just got back to the board because of Luisa's post to your. I must not have been nofified about your post cause I think I would have replied to you.
Common language in the old days was a must for our ancestors. If they married in "old country" than the villages would be within 10 miles radius.
Austria, Poland would refer to historical region Galicia that was controlled by Austria.
www.halgal.com
No V in Polish alphabet.
Found only 1 person with KRVIECIN arriving thru Ellis Island so I bet that the surname was transcribed incorrectly.
Krviecin, Wojciech Glazow, Russia 35 1874 1909 Looking at the manifest, the surname is KWIECIN.
In Poland: KWIECIN, KWIECINSKI, KWIECIN', KWIECIN'SKI, KWIECIEN, KWIECIEN', KWIECIEN'SKI. Spelling is very important in Poland.
To hear pronounciation: http://say.expressivo.com
A first name site: www.skarbczyk.com

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

srsoren34 — 2009-02-10 00:00:46Z

Hello Luisa, Here is the information I have on this family line which belongs to my granddaughters.

In the early 1990's Walter Kaye, himself, told this writer that his surname originally was Kwiecienski (he
spelled it), but that it was shortened to Kaye in this generation. As Walter was always called "Kaye"
for short (as a nickname) he decided to legalize it when he went into the refrigeration business to
make it easier for business purposes.
-After Walter's death, however, his son, Douglas, found a copy of his birth certificate showing Walter
was born February 1, 1914 at 609 19th Avenue N.E., Minneapolis, MN. His name on this
certificate from Minneapolis., Hennepin County, MN was Stanislav Krviecin. The name "Stanislav" was
crossed out and in its place was written "Walter James" with a notation "altered date of 2/5/58 by
sister's affidavit." This birth certificate listed his father as Victor Krviecin, of Russia, age 40 at last
birthday and his mother as Terezia Worwa, of Austria, age 45 at last birthday. The certificate also showed that he was delivered by midwife,
Mrs. M. Galush at 3:30pm on 1 Feb. 1914.
-In addition to a copy of his birth certificate was a name change application from Hennepin County, MN
dated 1940 which shows the name was changed to Walter James Kaye.
-Walter had siblings, but the only ones this writer is aware of are those which were listed in Walter's
obituary. They are Sr. Mary Augustine and Sr. Mary Damien of Sylvania, OH.
-Walter passed away at the St. Louis Park Plaza Healthcare Center in St. Louis Park, MN.
-To date this writer has no knowledge of his resting place.
My email address is: srsoren@juno.com if you want to contact me further. Regards, Ms. Sorenson

Re: Kwiecienski

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-02-09 23:58:45Z

Luisa

http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kwiecie%25C5%2584ski....
Much more KWIECIEN'SKIs in Poland
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kwiecie%25C5%2584.htm...
Few sites for research:
http://maxpages.com/poland
www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/index.html
www.surnamenavigator.org
The below arrived thru EI www.ellisislandrecords.org to America.
Kwiecienski, Bartholom Brzezowo, Russia 27 1886 1913
Kwiecienski, Stanislaw Lasolin, Russia 27 1885 1912
Kwiecienska, Macey Russia 30 1882 1912

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

LuisaJelkmann — 2009-02-09 23:12:33Z

Hello,
my mother and me also looking for the name Kwiecienski, we live in Germany. My grandmas maiden name is Kwiecienski, her father was Julian Kwiecienski, born in 1909, Neubrandenburg-Mecklenburg. His parents comes from Poland. His mother was Juliane or Juliana, but its not sure. She had got 10-15 children. We dont find matches in Poland or Germany, but many matches in USA.
Can it be that we are related? Have you got this names in your family? I will be very happy, if you give me an answer.
yours sincerely
Luisa

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-12-23 17:49:53Z

Thank you again for your reply & information. I've only just begun searching so have a long way to go. Mother's name on birth certificate was Terezia Worwa of Austria, age 45 at last B-day (abt 1869). I've never done research in Poland or Russia so this is totally new to me. Thank you for all your suggestions. I'm most grateful for any & all help.
Regards,
Ms. Sorenson

Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-12-23 17:49:13Z

Hi, I am researching the names in the subject. The family member, who has since passed away, said his name was originally Kwiecienski and he spelled it for me. On his birth certificate he's listed as Stanislav Krviecin b: Feb 1, 1914 in Mpls.,MN. It listed his father as Victor Krviecin of Russia, age 40 at last birthday (abt 1874) of Russia and his mother Terezia Worwa of Austria, age 45 at last birthday (abt 1869).
Eventually Stanislav had his name changed to Walter James Kaye. Any help greatly appreciated.

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Ms.

I am pretty sure that you know history of Poland.
http://en.wikipedia.org
http://maxpages.com/poland
www.polishroots.com/genpoland
In 1990 census of names there were 7 KWIECIEN'SKIs, 40 KWIECINSKIs, 7626 KWIECIN'SKIs and 412 WORWAs in Poland.
You need to locate a place of birth in US papers.
www.surnamenavigator.org

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Ms.

You need to find some information on Victor. Does he show up in 1930 census? If yes, does the census say Na-naturalized or Al-alien? Did he have social security numbers? What was the "mother tongue"? With the SKI ending it would suggests Polish but to early to say. No mention of a mother's name on his birth certificate? How about the CHURCH baptismal certificate?

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-09-24 20:09:29Z

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-09-24 14:28:10Z

Thank you so much for your reply. I'm sorry to say that I do not know the history of Poland. So, is the name Polish or Russian? Now I do not know. I will look into the sites you listed to learn more. Walter's birth certificate shows he was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota and lists his father as Victor Krviecin of Russia. That's all. Any further thoughts or suggestions grately appreciated.
Regards,
Ms. Sorenson

Re: Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-09-24 14:28:10Z

Kwiecienski or Krviecin

2006-09-21 18:33:17Z