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James Pigden, Life after pardon?

James Pigden, Life after pardon?

Posted: 18 Oct 2009 1:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Apr 2010 7:18AM GMT
Surnames: Pigden
James Pigden (born c1795 Kent) was transported to NSW on the Minerva in 1821. He received a pardon on 31 Dec 1836, according to the nsw.gov.au website. I cannot find any records of him from that point on. Other Pigdens are seen in Australia from 1878 on Ancestry searches - perhaps some are his descendants?

Are there any online records that may indicate what became of James after his pardon?

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 18 Oct 2009 3:26PM GMT
Classification: Query



From NSW BDM James Pigden d. Casino 1857 63 yrs old. #4469

Cheers Fryerning

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 18 Oct 2009 4:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pigden
Hi fryerning,

Many thanks for your help. Sadly, I don't know of any Pigden researchers in Australia. It would be good to make a connection.

Thanks again
wttmh

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 19 Oct 2009 5:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
The Sydney Gazette shows that in 1830 he was in the County of Northumberland NSW at Wallis' Plains, probably working on a property there.

See http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 19 Oct 2009 9:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pigden
Thank you for this information - James received a ticket of leave. All this is completely new to me, not having found a convict ancestor before, and I will have to find out more about this sort of detail.

Regards
wttmh

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 21 Oct 2009 1:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Just remember to try different spellings.

From Colonial Secretary Index
PIGDON, James. Per "Minerva", 1821
1824 Jul 6
Of Terry's clearing party. On return of fines and punishments inflicted by the Bench of Evan (Reel 6023; 4/6671 p.72)

Also that they may be more than one in the colony.
There is a James PIGDON listed in VIC 1856.

A James PIGDEN did recieve a ticket of leave (seems to be yours has arrival as 1821 Minerva)

In the 1825 muster he was at Samuel Terry's. He had a Conditional Pardon (or was asking for one)

All that means is,,His Life Sentence was reduced to a 7 year sentence and he had freedom but he had to remain in the colony.

In 1828 he is at Barracks Plains working for ?Eric? Glennis/Glennie.

I cannot see him in Convict Applications to marry from 1826-1851. From NSW BDM he doesn't appear to marry or have kids.

Chances are after his pardon he just moved away to work, probably where noone knew him.

Kellie

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 9 Apr 2010 2:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi just found info of my gt gt gt grandads son j. pigden new he was on the mineva but nothing else. gaps have been filled thanks.if you have any other info i would love to hear about him. such as did he have a family. doreen novak

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 15 Apr 2010 1:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have just read your message - sorry for the delay in responding, but Ancestry didn't notify me that I had received a reply. Wanted to say thanks for the info.

wttmh

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 15 Apr 2010 2:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Doreen,
I have just been notified by Ancesty that you posted a message today, 14 April 2010. Upon trying to view it, I'm told that it has been removed (why? No further info given).

Looking at messages, I see that you also posted a message on 9 April, which Ancestry didn't advise me about.
Was your James Pigden the son of James Pigden and Ann Ingram? I can't tell you any more about him than you would have gleaned from the message board other than:
Parish register of St. Mary’s, Lewisham, baptism, James on December 25th 1796, parents James Pigden and Ann,
(also parish register of St. Mary’s, Lewisham, baptism: Mary Ann on July 20th 1794 parents James Pigden and Ann).
There appear to be no other James Pigdens born c1795 Kent, leading me to the conclusion that the James who was transported to NSW must be this one.

I assume that you are descended from his brother Richard b.1792 and Ruth Bennett. I am descended from their son Alexander.

I'd be interested to know what your message of today contained.

Regards
wttmh

Re: Life after pardon? James Pigden

Posted: 16 Apr 2010 12:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi i dont know why my message was not printed. i asked if james had family,being his dad was my gt gt gt gt grandad also james mother ann,im descendedfrom henry sonof richard b.1792 henry was married to clarisa had two sons my grandad was richard, he had 12 children.
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