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Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 14 Apr 2005 11:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Apr 2005 1:55AM GMT
Surnames: Fitzwilliam Byrne Doyle
I would like to find information related to James Fitzwilliam and Mary Byrne, James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle (son & daughter in law), and Thomas and John (sons of James & Bridget).

Thomas was born in Wexford in 1833 and I believe that John was born there in 1835. The family appears to have lived in Coolgreany and moved to Arklow; a number of baptisms took place in Arklow, then family members came to the US around 1851.

It appears that John Fitzwilliam settled in Brooklyn, while the rest of the family members migrated to New Orleans. We cannot place Thomas and John in either Ireland or the US until about 1860. Thomas became the owner of a highly successful printing business in New Orleans and John was a bricklayer in Brooklyn.

Any help that can be offered will be greatly appreciated.

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 13 Oct 2011 5:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fitzwilliam
Hi my name is Malcolm Clark, I have just noticed your message from 2005. I am studying the Fitzwillaim family of Arklow as part of my family history and in my records I have a James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle having a son Patrick on the 12th Febuary 1838, hope this helps.

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 14 Oct 2011 1:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fitzwilliam Doyle
Malcolm, thanks for the reply. That family, based on not only the history that I know but a recent visit to the area in Ireland, was from norther County Wexford. Patrick Fitzwilliam was the brother of my great great grandfather, Thomas, oldest son of James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle. The tomb of James's father, James III, is in the Nativity of Our Lord cemetery in Ballyfad. Patrick came to America separate from the rest of the family on the ship Ticonderoga under the leadership of a Father Hore. The rest of his family, except Thomas, came to America into New Orleans.

I'd be happy to correspond with you, as I was led to believe that I am somehow related to Earl Fitzwilliam, the viceroy over Wicklow during the late 1700s. A book was written by Jim Rees about him and his largesse to his tenants called "Surplus People: The Fitzwilliam Clearances of 1847-1856." I got to meet Jim on my trip there in May.

I have a map of Wicklow from a book that I got from a great source in Ballyfad that shows all the land owned by Earl Fitzwilliam, largely the area of Shillelagh, just west of Moneribben where my ancestors lived.

Stay in touch. This could work out well for both of us.

Mike Fitzwilliam

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 3 Nov 2011 8:54PM GMT
Classification: Query

Hi Michael
Have been away on a short vacation but I am back now. I would like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind. What year did your family emigrate to the States, when they emigrated did Thomas' and Patrick' brother Michael go with them or did he stay in Ireland since you didn't mention him. The reason I ask these questions is that I am studying the Fitzwilliam's of Arklow but it is becoming very difficult because there are so many individual families all with children of the same name. If I can rule out certain people who have left Ireland it will narrow it down for me. Lastly do you know Annette Code in Canada, she is a bit of a Fitzwilliam specialist as her husbands family was one of those sent to Canada by the 5th Earl. Regards Malcolm Clark.

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 4 Nov 2011 4:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fitzwilliam, Doyle
Malcolm, here is what I know about my line of Fitzwilliam family members. There were 10 members of the family of James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle Fitzwilliam. Thomas, my ancestor, left separately on the ship Europe and arrived in Philadelphia in August, 1850. Patrick left, I believe, in October, 1850 on the ship Ticonderoga (one of three commissioned by Father Hore), and the rest were on the ship Millicete that left Liverpool to New Orleans. The children on the Millicete were John, James, Mary, Mathew, Michael, and Brien. James died at sea on Dec. 19. Bridget, Mary, Mathew, and Michael were admitted to Charity Hospital in New Orleans with typhus. All but Michael died. We have no idea what happened to Brien (who was Christened in Ireland as Bernard).

When I visited Moneribben this year,I was introduced to a Dan Kennedy, who lives on the land that James Fitzwilliam (the father of the James above) and his brother John lived on. Through various successions, Kennedy bought the land from Alice Tobin Fitzwilliam, wife of a Michael Fitzwilliam (whose father was also a Michael). I have not established a clear link between these people and my ancestor, James, but Mr. Kennedy was pretty sure there was one.

Through the CMC Research Project, I have found that all of the children above except Thomas and John were baptized in the church parish of Arklow, although not in Arklow town. Thomas was baptized at Kilaveny/Anacorragh (hope I got the spelling right, I've seen multiple variations), and I don't know where John was baptized. Bridget Doyle was, as nearly as I can find out, from Ballythomas.

Hope all of this helps. I know there were Fitzwilliam people in Arklow and my biggest regret is not going to the estate of the Earl while I was there. No one told me.

Mike Fitzwilliam

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 5 Nov 2011 7:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Michael
Thank you for the update on your family members, it will help to clear things up at a later date. On my records I have your Patrick born to James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle on the 12th Feb 1838 at Coolgreaney, his godparents were Christopher Moran and Bridget Fitzwilliam. Michael was born to James Fitzwilliam and Bridget Doyle on the 9 Aug 1839 at Coolgreaney his godparents were Michael Doyle and Sarah Doyle. So it would seem that they were living in the Coolgreaney area not far from Ballyfad.
I have just finnished reading Jim Rees's book "The Fishery of Arkow" in it he mentions the big problem with Typhus in the local community, it may have been carried onto the ships, although I read a book some years ago about the Famine and a lot of families were turned back at Dublin if it was thought they were a bad state of health. I will finnish now, talk to you again.
Malcolm Clark

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 7 Nov 2011 1:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Malcolm, you are right on all counts. I got my initial information from the CMC research project online, then from a contact who had been a contributor to that site. While in Dublin, I got copies of the handwritten baptismal records for all the children of James & Bridget Fitzwilliam except my ancestor, Thomas, and his brother John. I have lots of information about not only this line of Fitzwilliam people, but many others. Email me at fitzenterp@aol.com and put something in the Subject line about the Fitz Family and I can send you back what I have. I converted the original into a Word document, then formatted it to be more in alignment than the original. I think it will help you a lot.

Mike Fitzwilliam

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 16 May 2012 4:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Mike,
I just returned from Ireland and it seems I followed in your footsteps.
I had family with me and a limited amount of time but I did make a few connections.
You didn't mention in your earlier posts anything about the old Kilninor Cemetery which is right below the Moneyribbon home site. In it I found John and Mary Fitzwilliams and a Sarah Fitzwilliams a daughter or young wife maybe? Transcribed as:
Here lieth the body of Sarah Fitzwilliam who departed this life March VI 1786 aged 25 years. Lord have mercy on her soul. Amen (plot 307)
I.H.S. Here lies the body of Mary Fitzwilliam who departed May 6th 1794 aged 65 years. Lord have mercy on her soul (plot 308)
I.H.S. Here lies the body of John Fitzwilliam who departed this life July 27th 1794 aged 72 years. Lord have mercy of his soul. (plot 309).
I also found information on my Willians side. I too wish I had more time and the weather was cold and raining.
I would have liked to check at the library in Gorey for information too. Did you go there? The reason I was, not only is it the registration district for Moneyribbon and Glenague but some of Ballyfad. It was mentioned to me that that area was know as a "half parish" shared between Wicklow and Wexford.
On another note, are you in contact with Peggy Leonard? I have searched the net over and can't seem to find any contact information for her. After reviewing the wonderful sheet of Fitzwilliam information you sent, it became painfully obvious that the Fitzwilliam daughter's marriages and children were among the missing.
Sorry to have to contact you this way, but not only am I in California at the moment, but I lost all of my email addresses when my desktop crashed.
Look forward to hearing from you soon, Pat Stormo
PS. Pat and Bernadette Cullen send their regards and ask your forgiveness for not replying to your email.



Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 20 May 2012 3:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
email address for Peggy Leonard... PeggyLeonard112@aol.com

Re: Fitzwilliam Family 1760-1850

Posted: 20 May 2012 1:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks ever so much, Pat
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