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Charleston Orphan House Census 1930-seeking inmates or relatives of inmates

Posted: 9 May 2010 7:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm trying to find living people or relatives of people who lived at the Charleston Orphan House in the late 1920s to mid 1930s. My father and his siblings lived there from 1925 to 1935. I'd like to know what their life was like at the orphan house. My dad did not talk about it when he was alive.

Here is a list of the children who were "inmates" at the orphan house during the 1930 Census.

Letha Kilpatrick 9
Johnnie Kilpatrick 8
August Kilpatrick 6
Thelma Kilpatrick 4 1/12
Beulah L Knight 21
Heyward B Lesesne 7
David C Lesesne 5
Willie R Lesesne 9
John Lewis 5
Etta B Lewis 12
Myrtle Lemacks 15
Dell Lemacks 14
Rudy M Lemacks 15
Rafield J Moseley 15
Charles L Moseley 13
Frances W Moseley 11
Dorothy D Moseley 8
Charles H Murray 15 (His brother)
Quentin A Murray 11 (My father)
Margaret E Murray 13 (His sister)
Louis R Morillo 15
Roger B Morillo 12
Pauline H Morillo 10
Gladys D Meyers 15
Kathreen M Meyers 13
Mary E Meyers 5
John C Meyers 12
Herman F Meyers 8
Hazel Meyers 9
Charles A Morris 10
Henry L Morris 8
Willie H Moran 8
Cecil A Mcclary 15
Sam C Mcclary 13
Mottie L Mcclary 10
Oliver H Mcdaniel 20
Thelma Nelson 13
Evelyn Nelson 12
Margaret Nelson 6
Frank Nelson 10
Dorothy Nelson 8
Jimmy L Ott 5
Alise G Platt 13
Hattie C Platt 10
May R Platt 7
Katherine M Platt 5
Edwin Platt 12
Clarice L Peters 17
Mike C Reagan 10
Mildred Rourke 14
Lesa Rourke 10
Stephen W Rourke 8
Ruth M Roberts 10
Clarence V Roberts 7
Harry L Rawley 11
Charles W Rians 10
Gladys L Ruddock 17
Maybell Reeves 15
Dorothy Reeves 12
Margaret Reeves 9
Ida M Ritchie 16
Bessie Ritchie 14
Daisy Ritchie 12
Margaret Ritchie 11
Lyda D Rice 14
Mamie A Rice 8
Pearl L Risher 12
Jewel S Risher 10
Delores C Risher 7
Erik W Svedberg 17
Jessie E Svedberg 15
Louis T Smith 16
Rudel W Smoak 14
Dorothy D Smoak 12
Homer A Smoak 10
Marian Smoak 8
Julius Scheffegeell 12
Raymond Scheffegeell 8
Charles A Scheffegeell 6
Ruth A Scheffegeell 4
Ruby M Scheffegeell 4 6/12
Harold Simmons 8
James Simmons 6
Arthur Simmons 4 9/12
Rebecca M Scott 19
Marie I Shirah 18
Frank H Strock 12
Gilmore Simms 16
Cleo V Simms 16
Louise M Simms 13
May Simms 11
Rosa M Sineath 14
Robert W Turnes 13
Theodore F Turnes 7
Gladys I Turnes 10
James C Todd 11
Harold E Todd 9
Lillian L Thorpe 19
Margie R Tinkle 17
Flora C Tedder 13

Re: Charleston Orphan House Census 1930-seeking inmates or relatives of inmates

Posted: 31 Jan 2011 1:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
My Mom Hazel Gregg was at the Orphan house from 1937-?. Her siblings were there ALSO.

Re: Charleston Orphan House Census 1930-seeking inmates or relatives of inmates

Posted: 3 Feb 2014 6:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
My relatives in the Charleston Orphan House on Calhoun Street, were Rourk and Rourke. I know nothing of the history. But you can find articles online & in the library. There are also books. The South Carolina Department of History and Archives & whoever else holds the records of the orphanage has records of people coming in & going out. Here are some sources:

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130316/PC16/13031941...
A brief history of the Charleston Orphan House
Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:01 a.m.

http://www.billdraper.net/html/body_orphanage1.html
Charleston’s Orphan House Inmates Part 1
http://www.billdraper.net/html/body_orphanage2.html
Part 2

http://www.shorpy.com/node/9247
The Orphanage: 1900
Submitted by Dave on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 5:30pm.

http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/news/36165-carolina-youth-...
Carolina Youth Development Center celebrating 220 years with event, auction

http://www.thedigitel.com/arts-culture/history-charleston-or...
10:04 am on Sunday October 24, 2010 | Posted by Ken Hawkins
On the history of the Charleston Orphan House, and the struggles of its successor

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Orphan_House_-_th...
Shows the Orphan House on 263 King Street (Charleston Orphan House was on Calhoun). I don't know if this is the same bldg.

http://genealogytrails.com/scar/charleston/charleston_orphan...
The Charleston Orphan House
Charleston, Charleston County, South Carolina

Introduction taken from 'History and Records of the Charleston Orphan House'
Volume 2: 1860-1899
By Susan L. King (can find this in library)
Copies may be ordered from SCMAR
Box 21766
Columbia, SC 29221
Copyright 1994 Brent H. Holcomb


http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lon=-79.9367549&lat=32.7...
Charleston Orphan House (historical) USGS Charleston Quad, South Carolina, Topographic Map

Charleston Orphan House (historical) is a Building in the state of South Carolina (county of Charleston), located at latitude - longitude coordinates (also known as lat-long or GPS coordinates) of N 32.78573 and W -79.93675. Charleston Orphan House (historical) is shown in the center of the topographic (topo) map, which is sourced from the United States Geographical Survey map USGS Charleston quad. The nearest major town is Charleston, SC.


http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20101024/ARCHIVES/3102...
Serving children 220 years

Adam Parker
Posted: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:01 a.m., Updated: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:25 p.m.


http://docsouth.unc.edu/imls/orphan/menu.html
Charleston Orphan House
By-laws of the Orphan House of Charleston, South Carolina. Revised and Adopted by the Board of Commissioners, 4th April, 1861. Submitted to and Approved by the City Council of Charleston, 23d April, 1861.
Charleston: Steam-Power Presses of Evans & Cogswell, 1861.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/imls/orphan/orphan.html
---- html file for Charleston Orphan House Bylaws

http://docsouth.unc.edu/imls/circular1/menu.html
Charleston (S.C.). City Council. Committee on Retrenchment and Relief
Circular of the City Council on Retrenchment: And Report of the Commissioners of the Orphan House.
Charleston: Steam-Power Presses of Evans & Cogswell, 1861.

http://billdraper.net/html/charleston1.html
THE EVACUATION OF CHARLESTON

http://virtual.clemson.edu/caah/languages/Riley/MemmingerMon...
CHRISTOPHER GUSTAVUS MEMMINGER (at Charleston Orphan House)

http://www.childrenhomes.org/dir/List_a_Children,039s_Home_o...
ERROR ON THIS FILE

62. Charleston Orphan House, Charleston, SC
Established in 1790, The Charleston Orphan House, located in Charleston, SC was the first public orphanage in the United States. Today the organization continues its 200 year legacy under the name of [Carolina Youth Development Center) A complete history of the organization entitled, A Legacy of Caring: The Charleston Orphan House 1790-1990 was published by Wyrick and Company, Charleston, SC 1991. Ref Wikipedia

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs102/1102195213087/archi...
On October 18th, 1790, The City Council of Charleston passed an ordinance establishing an orphanage, "For the purpose of supporting and educating poor orphan children and those of poor and disabled parents who are unable to support them." Charleston Orphan House was the first public institution for children in the United States. Exactly four years after the ordinance was signed, on October 18th, 1794, the doors were opened to one hundred and fifteen (115) children. Today, the 6300-pound bell that once served as the fire bell for the City of Charleston hangs in front of the Pavilion on our campus and rings three times each day.

BOOK:
The Charleston Orphan House: Children's Lives in the First Public Orphanage in America (Markets and Governments in Economic Hist) [Kindle Edition]
John E. Murray (Author)


BOOK:
A Legacy of Caring: The Charleston Orphan House, 1790-1990 Hardcover
by Alan Keith-Lucas (Author)
Hardcover
Publisher: Wyrick & Co (August 1991)
ISBN-10: 9991953477
ISBN-13: 978-9991953472

John E. Murray
296 pages | 13 halftones, 5 tables | 6 x 9 | © 2012
Markets and Governments in Economic History


The Charleston Orphan House
Children's Lives in the First Public Orphanage in America

The first public orphanage in America, the Charleston Orphan House saw to the welfare and education of thousands of children from poor white families in the urban South. From wealthy benefactors to the families who sought its assistance to the artisans and merchants who relied on its charges as apprentices, the Orphan House was a critical component of the city’s social fabric. By bringing together white citizens from all levels of society, it also played a powerful political role in maintaining the prevailing social order.








Re: Charleston Orphan House Census 1930-seeking inmates or relatives of inmates

Posted: 3 Feb 2014 6:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
THIS IS THE BOOK YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR: I believe it lists children's names. I haven't seen it so I'm not sure. Check the libraries, genealogy centers & SCDAH (SOUTH CAROLINA DEPT OF HISTORY & ARCHIVES below)
BOOK: History and Records of the Charleston Orphan House History, 1790-1860 by Susan L. King (Jun 1984) .

http://scdah.sc.gov/Pages/default.aspx
SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF HISTORY AND ARCHIVES (SCDAH)
8301 Parklane Road, Columbia, SC 29223 | 803-896-6196

http://www.ccpl.org/content.asp?action=detail&catid=1036...
Records of the Commissioners of the Charleston Orphan House, 1790-1951

http://ccplarchive.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/charleston_or...
Records of the Commissioners of the Charleston Orphan House, 1790-1951

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCROOTS/2002-0...
SCROOTS-L Archives
Archiver > SCROOTS > 2002-04 > 1018885850


From: "Janet Jilote" Email jilote at earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [SC] Charleston Orphan House Records
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:50:50 -0400
References: B8DF4F23.1C72%chollp at bellsouth.net

Your relative(s) probably knew my grandfather, as he was
in the orphan house in 1905.

"Pupils" was a nice way of saying orphans that were being
schooled.

The City of Chas. Archives has copies of the Chas. Orphan
House Records, if this is in fact the same orphanage that you
were referring to... there were other orphanages.

The files on the children have request for submission, which
will list parents names (if known), in some cases notes were
taken that stated a child was illegitimate, or that a parent
ran off. Some even made statements for or against a woman's
or man's character. There were stories of bigamy. And of
course the old baby in a basket story, abandoned on a
doorstep, children without known parents. So you never know
what you may find out about your family till you search the
files.

Some letters were written to the orphan house on behalf of
the surviving parent, since most were widowed, and approval
had to be made before children entered. I have found request
of relatives or surviving parents to withdraw the child/ren.
Letters or orders of children going to work as an
'indentured servant'. This was a way to teach a skill or
profession, or sometimes just work like heck as cheap labor
on a farm. Others like my grandfather opted to stay in
school. His father petitioned for his removal, but was
unsuccessful because of his age, illness, and the fact that
there was no woman in the household to look after the child.

There may be surprises like finding other relatives, via
permission slips for holiday visitations with aunts and/or
uncles, etc. Papers may list the names of other siblings.
Some remained in the households of the parent, others may
have been of legal age, sent to live with relatives, or
indentured to friends relatives or strangers. One of my
cousins went to live in NC with a family I've yet to
connect.

In many cases the families were too poor to raise the
children. Some parent(s) even listed as living in the Poor
House. And then there was illness. If a mother was too ill
to care for her children, or a father too ill to work,
children were often placed in the orphan house until the
situation was better.

And then there were letters of escapes, runaways, illness
and deaths.

Some widowed parents remarried and children were removed
from the orphanage. While other children remained in the
orphanage until the legal age of 16 for boys and 18 for
girls (if my memory serves me).


The Charleston Orphan House Records were housed at the
City Archives located at:

Port City Center
701 East Bay Street
Charleston, SC.
843-724-7301

I've heard that the Charleston Library (SC Room) will be
taking over the contents of the Archives. I don't have much
info on this. And do not know if the City Archives is still
open to the public at present, or not.

Happy Hunting ~
Janet Nielson Jilote
Charleston, South Carolina

PS: I think I have the 1910 listing of Orphans from the
Chas. Orphan House, if that would be of some use to you and
your search.

If your orphans were older and at the orphanage before 1900
I would suggest you view a copy of:

History and Records of the Charleston Orphan House
1860 -1900;
by Susan L King.
SCMAR; 929.38 Charleston, Vol. 2.

----- Original Message -----
From: Cynthia H Porcher Email chollp at bellsouth.net
To: SCROOTS-L at rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: [SC] Charleston Orphan House Records


BOOK: The Charleston Orphan House, 1790-1951: Photographs and personal memories of the people and the institution by Gene McKnight (1990)

BOOK: Charleston! Charleston!: The History of a Southern City by Walter J. Frazer and Walter J. Jr. Fraser (Oct 1, 1991)

BOOK: To Hear Them Tell It: Memories of Growing Up in Charleston by Mary C. Coy (Aug 5, 2013)

BOOK: Hidden History of Old Charleston (SC) (Hidden Histories) by Good, Edward Fitzsimons and Margaret Middleton Rivers Eastman (Jun 26, 2012)

BOOK: Oration delivered on the forty-eighth anniversary of the Orphan House, in Charleston, S.C., October by Smyth Thomas (Jul 17, 2009)

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