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Aurelie Pinelle

Joyce (View posts)
Posted: 12 May 2001 12:12PM GMT
Searching for birth/baptism,marriage,death/burial,dates and places,and parents for AURELIE PINELLE. She and HILAIRE MONETTE were parents to WILFRED HENRY MONETTE,born 1873-12-12; baptized 1873-12-14 (no church name available); godparents: Hilaire MONETTE & Josephine DUVERNAY E/C: Champlain,Clinton County,NY USA. Also, MARIE-ROSE MONET, born 1860-08-27; baptized 1860-09-02, d/o HILAIRE & AURELIE PINELLE; godparents: Jean PINELLE & Cordelie PINELLE; E/C: Champlain, NY. Any help would be most appreciated! My email:
frnk89@webtv.net
OR you may post here,for everyone.
Joyce

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 17 Mar 2002 6:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Sep 2005 4:57AM GMT
Surnames: Monette, Laventure Pinelle
Hey Joyce,
Are you still doing research on Aurelie Pinelle and Hilaire Monette? I have a puzzle piece -- it concerns Rosalie Monette from Clinton, NY. Hopefully, you'll have some puzzle pieces for me too. Let me know if you are still out there. Camille

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 17 Mar 2002 8:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TETREAULT/BENOIT dit LIVERNOIS/BOUCHER/MONETTE dit LAVERDURE
Hi Camille, Thanks for the reply! I'm still here and still looking for puzzle pieces! I have ROSALIE MONETTE dit LAVERDURE,daughter of Hipolyte(Paul) MONET & Rose Trahan, born about 1832,probably in St-Valentin(Iberville),Quebec(not too sure about the birth date/place,still need proof!); died, 16 September, 1909 in Southbridge,Worcester County,MA.USA; married 3 March 1851, St-Valentin,Quebec,Canada, to OLIVIER BENOIT dit LIVERNOIS, born about 1828,son of Joseph Benoit dit Livernois and Marie-Anne Gregoire; died 09 August 1893,also in Southbridge,MA. Rosalie and Olivier Livernois(they dropped the 'BENOIT' when they crossed the Canadian/USA border), were the parents of sixteen chidren( all but two were married in Southbridge,MA.), including my paternal grandmother,MARIE-HERMINE LIVERNOIS,born 1880; died 16 September,1932 in Worcester,MA.;married 13 January 1902,in Notre Dame church, Southbridge,MA., to NOE L TETREAULT, born 1875,son of Treffle & Vitaline(Boucher) Tetreault; died 14 June 1949, in Southbridge. Rosalie had a brother named Hilaire(and he had a son named Hilaire,also a nephew with the same given name of Hilaire!), now if that doesn't make you dizzy,<g>,they all used the nickname,ELI! Hilaire and Rosalie(whose lovely mother was also called, Rosalie!), had a sister named,AURELIE,who married EDOUARD COMEAU, son of Rene Comeau & Marguerite Bourgeois. I'm just trying to get all these people straight!<G> I would be most grateful for any piece of this puzzle that you would care to contribute! I have tried to anticipate any question you might have about my great-grandmother,Rosalie Monette Livernois,in the above info, however, if what you want to know isn't there, I will be happy to answer anything,if I can.Joyce Matteau

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 17 Mar 2002 8:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Sep 2005 4:57AM GMT
Hey Joyce,
I am barely getting into the Monette research. You obviously know way more than I do. I am not even certain where our connection is but I think there is one!! I do my research mostly with vital records and census.
I am doing research on my Laventure line. They originally came from Canada. My research right now is concentrated in the Clinton NY area. I currently have access to the Comté de Clinton County, New York Marriages (1830-1880 ) by Benoît Pontbriand .
I have a Rosalie Laventure born about 1831. She marries a Hilaire Monette 29 Sept 1846. His father is listed as Francois and Mother as Margurite Doucet. I have found Eli and Rosalie in the 1850 census with a year old daughter also named Rosalie.
On 7 May 1855 there is another marriage----of a Pierre Monette and Aurelie Pinel. Again the father is Francois and Mother Marguerite. Plus Pierre is listed as a widower of Rosalie Laventure. ( I am just thinking there may be an error in the transcription __ Pierre—Hilaire) ??? Just speculating! I find in the 1870 census a Eli Monette and Aurelie listed with a bunch of children: Eli (19), Philomine (17), Albert (12), Rosa (9), Caroline (7), Baltese (5), George (3), and Heledore (5 months).

My thinking is that Rosalie, the daughter of Roselie and Eli would be 20 or 21 and gone. The next two children Eli and Philomine would likely be Rosalie’s also. Eli marries Aurelie in 1855 making Albert and the others Aurlie’s children.
There are also marriage records of Rosalie Monette marrying a Francois Renaud 24 Oct 1870. Her parents are not listed but M. Jane and Hilaire Monette are the witnesses. There is the marriage of Hilaire Monette and Josephine Duvernay 2 June 1874. Again, only witneses – H. Monette and I. Duvernay. There is another marriage of Philomine Monette to Edouard Laroche 10 Feb 1872. Again only witneses: H. Monette and J.B. Pinelle.
Those are the only related Monettes that I can see. My speculation is that they are Rosalie and Hilaires children. They were all born in the early 50’s and would be natural to marry in the 70’s.
I know this does not blend exactly with what you have, but I think there is a connection can you make any sense of it?? If this doesn’t help you it will surely mess you over more!!<G>. Let me know what you think. Camille

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Joyce Matteau (View posts)
Posted: 19 Mar 2002 2:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TETREAULT/BENOIT DIT LIVERNOIS/MONETTE DIT LAVERDURE/BOUCHER
Hello Cousin Camille!<g> We share great-great-grandparents: JOSEPH-FRANCOIS MONET DIT LAVERDURE & MARIE-REINE REMILLARD,(married on 18 Ootober, 1790 at L'Acadie,Qc., were the parents of,FRANCOIS-MONET,born about 1784(probably at L'Acadie,Laprairie,Quebec; died August 18,1874, Champlain, Clinton County,New York,USA.; married MARIE-MARGUERITE DOUCET (d/o Nicolas Doucet & Marie-Anne Bisaillon), on 30 January,1815, at L'Acadie, Laprairie,Qc.; HYPOLITE (Paul) MONET,birth c1792(my gr-gr-grandfather); died August 25, 1872, Champlain, Clinton County, New York, USA; married on 13 January,1817, at L'Acadie,Qc., ROSALIE(La Rose) Trahan(d/o Jean-Baptiste Trahan and Marie Clouatre). The above marriages were given to me some time ago, by a very kind researcher from Canada, who generously offered to do a lookup in the BIG DROUIN, at the, Archives Nationale, then in the city of QUEBEC. The death,dates and place, are from another cousin who is/was in posession of the actual death records. THEODORE MONET, also the s/o Joseph-Francois Monet & Marie-Reine Remillard, married on 14 February,1831, at ST-Philippe, Laprairie to MARIE BRINDAMOUR/MENARD, d/o Michel Menard/Brindamour & Marguerite Desnoyers.(Source: mariages du Clinton county NY. B.Pontbriand). I want to thank you for clearing up some of the confusion, in my mind, over the four Hilaire(Eli); Rosalie,and Aurelie Monettes! I didn't know that my gr-gr-uncle,Francois Monet and his wife, Marie-Marguerite Doucet, also had a son, Hilaire, and a grandson, Hilaire. Can you imagine the confusion when they all gathered in the same place? I have tried to find more information on the LAVENTURE family, but I didn't have a lot of luck, in the preliminary searches that I ran yesterday. On the Mormon's web site at:www.familysearch.org I searched, first on the surname alone and pulled up: LAVENTURE, LAVERDIERE, JOACHIME, AND LECLER. Is LAVENTURE a dit name, as well as a surname? Do you have Rosalie Laventure's parents? I have tried to find them, many times,with no luck. Josephine Duvernay's parentage is also an unsolved mystery. The Rosalie Monette that married Francois Renaud on 24 Oct.,1870, is news to me. I haven't a clue as to whose daughter she was, but I'd surely like to find out! My paternal aunt EVA TETREAULT married a,WILROSE RENAUD, smal world! I need some time in a genealogy society! About your theory of a second mariage for PIERRE(HILAIRE?) MONETTE,s/o Francois Monet & Marguerite Doucet, and widower of Rose Laventure, to AURELIE PINELLE,married on 7 MAY 1855, and the three older children:ELI(19), PHILOMINE(17), and ALBERT(12), were Rose and Hilaire's(Pierre?),is entirely plausible! PIERRE, as a given name, in the MONET/MONETE DIT LAVERDURE families,was not all that popular. Not like,FRANCOIS, or HILAIRE, anyway! Joyce

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Camille Derry (View posts)
Posted: 19 Mar 2002 3:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
How fun it was to get your reply. Rosalie Laventure is the d/o David and Elisabeth Isabelle Gauthier. I have just discovered her myself. She has many siblings: Olivier also known as Levi(24) married Philomine Durvernay(20) 3 Sept 1853. Another brother named Stephen married Fanny?? ( got that info off the Mormon site) I do have census records of them. Then there is Cecile(16) that married Joseph Duvernay(20) 20 Sept 1853. Sophie(15) marriedJoseph Desmarais(22) 18 Oct 1853. <busy year>
There is a brother named Solomon who I am trying to find. He has a Son named David born in 5 July1863-- the mother was Julia Camiaire. I have a copy of that birth record. There is a son named Solomon Laventure -- it could be David Solomon or another son. I have only found the one birth record.
There is a Leon Laventure, but not too sure of him. There is a Phebe--- this record shows she married a Roch LaCroix on 16 March 1872. I have found many of these guys on census including Phebe-- listed as the wife of Noel Cross which goes along with info I got from the Mormom site however, they have her birth year way off.
I got an email from a guy regarding the Laventures. I'll forward it to you. His stuff includes a sister named Philomine which was news to me, but she would not have been born for the 1850 census. His line is Elisabeth Isabelle Gauthier so he had little on the Laventure line. I do not know what the 'dit' thing means do you??? David and Elisabeth or Isabelle Gauthier is on the Mormon site. There is also a David Amble Laventure -- I think they are the same guy, but I haven't identified that possitively. I am working on it. I'll check tomorrow and find out Josephine Duvernay's parentage. Camille

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 30 Jan 2003 3:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Camille,
Was researching LAVENTURE on the LDS site and came across your series of messages on this board.
Regarding your inquiry of the meaning of "dit"...I believe that it from the French and means "also called"...similar to our "aka" for "also known as". The French verb "dire" means "to tell" and "dit" is a conjugation of that verb. Hope this helps.
Debbie

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 28 Jan 2011 5:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Monette, Demarais
I am looking for needles in haystacks, but ... I am looking for a connection to New York Monettes and Demarais families. My husband's gtgtgrandfather was Moses Demarais, whom we thought had always come from Canada into Minnesota. According to his death certificate, he was born in New York State, Nov. 17, 1841 and his mother is listed as Victoria Monette. We have no idea how he ended up in Minnesota and it appears he spent some time in Wisconsin. His son, William, later changed the name to Demaer. I was hoping you might have an idea whether my Moses is connected in any way to your Monette group.
Karen

Re: Aurelie Pinelle

Posted: 28 Jan 2011 11:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
I didn't do a lot of research on the Monettes. Just enoght to clarify that Rosilie Laventure did marry Hiliare Monette. Victoria is not a name that I have in my data base. The area where I did that research was Clinton county NY. I still have a few resources from that area.

Have you found Moses Demariais in the any of the censuses? Just because his death record said he was born in NY doesn't make it so. I am betting he spent time in NY and was born there.

Who did he marry -- when where??? What time period was he in Wisconsin. Get as much information out online as you can and maybe someone will see a connection.

Later, Camille
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